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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6368449" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Well, to begin with, I hope you can appreciate now that you should always RP NPCs on the basis of their reasonable motivations - not on the basis of how you hope their actions might enhance the story.</p><p></p><p>So, the trick here now is to come up with a reasonable motivation for why the NPC bad guys are now abandoning their plan in a particular way for a particular PC, with the understanding that double crossing the PC or in anyway going back on the offer is the least interesting and imaginative option. </p><p></p><p>Second, I honestly can't understand why a PC that is winning agrees to put himself in the power of an enemy NPC with as little assurance as the NPCs seem to have given him. Why in the world would a PC go along with that idea in the first place? What does the PC think is going to happen? So what is the PC motive here? What is the PC's upside? </p><p></p><p>And I can't really answer the question of what motivated the offer without knowing more about your NPCs larger goals. So presumably the bad guys want to accomplish something and presumably they thought they could do so by resurrecting a BBEG. If they are now betraying that BBEG, it's likely because they don't think he can do the job he was resurrected for.</p><p></p><p>Do they think the PC can? Has this whole thing with resurrecting the BBEG simply been a wheel in a larger plan that perhaps unraveled some time ago. Maybe they resurrected the BBEG to do a job that he then refused to do (or proved incapable of doing), and they couldn't get rid of him. Perhaps the whole point of the BBEG was, "You can rule the world if you help us get us the golden dingus.", and the BBEG guy said, "Do you think me a fool. I don't need your permission to rule the world, and if I gave you the golden dingus ruling the world would be irrelevant compared to the awesome power you would have." </p><p></p><p>It seems to me that the PC in accepting the offer is betraying the rest of the party. Sure, the bad guys are standing down, but they are asking the PC to effectively stand down as well. I don't get that even more than I don't get the NPCs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6368449, member: 4937"] Well, to begin with, I hope you can appreciate now that you should always RP NPCs on the basis of their reasonable motivations - not on the basis of how you hope their actions might enhance the story. So, the trick here now is to come up with a reasonable motivation for why the NPC bad guys are now abandoning their plan in a particular way for a particular PC, with the understanding that double crossing the PC or in anyway going back on the offer is the least interesting and imaginative option. Second, I honestly can't understand why a PC that is winning agrees to put himself in the power of an enemy NPC with as little assurance as the NPCs seem to have given him. Why in the world would a PC go along with that idea in the first place? What does the PC think is going to happen? So what is the PC motive here? What is the PC's upside? And I can't really answer the question of what motivated the offer without knowing more about your NPCs larger goals. So presumably the bad guys want to accomplish something and presumably they thought they could do so by resurrecting a BBEG. If they are now betraying that BBEG, it's likely because they don't think he can do the job he was resurrected for. Do they think the PC can? Has this whole thing with resurrecting the BBEG simply been a wheel in a larger plan that perhaps unraveled some time ago. Maybe they resurrected the BBEG to do a job that he then refused to do (or proved incapable of doing), and they couldn't get rid of him. Perhaps the whole point of the BBEG was, "You can rule the world if you help us get us the golden dingus.", and the BBEG guy said, "Do you think me a fool. I don't need your permission to rule the world, and if I gave you the golden dingus ruling the world would be irrelevant compared to the awesome power you would have." It seems to me that the PC in accepting the offer is betraying the rest of the party. Sure, the bad guys are standing down, but they are asking the PC to effectively stand down as well. I don't get that even more than I don't get the NPCs. [/QUOTE]
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