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<blockquote data-quote="Nellisir" data-source="post: 6085706" data-attributes="member: 70">I honestly didn't think of that.&nbsp; My issues have been PCs that keep a stocked forge at their base, and somehow turn into master craftsmen in their down time.&nbsp; It wasn't a game breaker, just...annoying.Working off the d20 list, I whittled it down to Ancient, Local, Religion, Magic, Noble, and Nature (which takes over Herbalism, Animal Lore, stuff like that).&nbsp; It's largely a campaign issue - I included Noble Lore because it made sense for knights &amp; aristocracy, and didn't fit easily into other categories.Intimidate always seemed like a specialization of Bluff, and Diplomacy is pretty much all about lying to people too.&nbsp; Or maybe I'm just cynical.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; But I am running into the issues of specialization - for my illusionist class variant, I put down &quot;lying, smooth-talking, tall-tale telling, and yarn-spinning&quot;.&nbsp; So...can he do &quot;diplomacy&quot; or not? I've been working skills out more or less on the fly as I redo the classes into a variant &quot;basic&quot; format.&nbsp; Link to the blog in my sig.; all the classes were posted this year.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nellisir, post: 6085706, member: 70"] I honestly didn't think of that. My issues have been PCs that keep a stocked forge at their base, and somehow turn into master craftsmen in their down time. It wasn't a game breaker, just...annoying. Working off the d20 list, I whittled it down to Ancient, Local, Religion, Magic, Noble, and Nature (which takes over Herbalism, Animal Lore, stuff like that). It's largely a campaign issue - I included Noble Lore because it made sense for knights & aristocracy, and didn't fit easily into other categories. Intimidate always seemed like a specialization of Bluff, and Diplomacy is pretty much all about lying to people too. Or maybe I'm just cynical. ;) But I am running into the issues of specialization - for my illusionist class variant, I put down "lying, smooth-talking, tall-tale telling, and yarn-spinning". So...can he do "diplomacy" or not? I've been working skills out more or less on the fly as I redo the classes into a variant "basic" format. Link to the blog in my sig.; all the classes were posted this year. [/QUOTE]

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