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<blockquote data-quote="Rackhir" data-source="post: 25610" data-attributes="member: 149"><p><strong>AA vs OBI</strong></p><p></p><p>Since you are dealing with relatively low level char (7th max if I am correct?) OBI will be much better than AA, as the class advantages for the first few levels are much better than they are for the AAs. You'll be able to take 1-2 levels of OBI, but I'd go for Ftr6/OBI 1, since you'll get an extra feat and saves boost with the 6th fighter lvl. </p><p></p><p>With OBI for the first 4 lvs you get </p><p>1) +1d6 sneak attack, </p><p>2) Close Combat Shot (no AoO when firing bow in threatened area, So you don't have to drop your bow and switch to a Melee weapon)</p><p>3) +2d6 (tot) SA</p><p>I4) Imp Wpn Focus. </p><p></p><p>Vs. for AA </p><p></p><p>1) +1 arrows</p><p>2) Imbue arrows (largely useless due to limted spells/caster lv)</p><p>3)+2 Arrows</p><p>4) Seeker arrow (Nice, but 1/day, only 1 shot and essentially just negates cover and concealment bonuses).</p><p></p><p>Basically, one the main advantages you get from AA (imbue arrow) is usless without a lot more levels (in a spell casting class) and the other (+N arrows) can be duplicated by your mage using GMW. Furthermore, sneak attacks and ambushes should be S.O.P for an evil party attacking the goodie-goodies and the OBI's SA abilities can be devastating in those sort of situations. Particularly if you cast invis on the archer, that will enable the char to use it more often and that's plus 1d6 on up to 3 attacks per round at 7th level (or 2d6 if you wait 'til 8th).</p><p></p><p>If it matters OBI is a better HD, though it gets somewhat less Skill points. It also has better Will saves than AA (a weak point for Ftrs). </p><p></p><p>However it is somewhat of a moot point, since you need at least one level of mage/sorc and a +6 bab to qualify for AA. As a result you can't even take AA, before 8th lvl anyway (Sorc/Wiz +1/2lvs BAB so no bab+ at first lvl, thus 5/6 ftr lvs + 2/1 lv S-W, min 7 levels F/S-W before taking AA). </p><p></p><p>If you had 20 levels or so to play with it would be come much more of a "6 of one, half-dozen of another" sort of situation as they both have some great abilities, but for low-med level char, OBI is definitely superior (now if you had the levels to take BOTH...)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rackhir, post: 25610, member: 149"] [b]AA vs OBI[/b] Since you are dealing with relatively low level char (7th max if I am correct?) OBI will be much better than AA, as the class advantages for the first few levels are much better than they are for the AAs. You'll be able to take 1-2 levels of OBI, but I'd go for Ftr6/OBI 1, since you'll get an extra feat and saves boost with the 6th fighter lvl. With OBI for the first 4 lvs you get 1) +1d6 sneak attack, 2) Close Combat Shot (no AoO when firing bow in threatened area, So you don't have to drop your bow and switch to a Melee weapon) 3) +2d6 (tot) SA I4) Imp Wpn Focus. Vs. for AA 1) +1 arrows 2) Imbue arrows (largely useless due to limted spells/caster lv) 3)+2 Arrows 4) Seeker arrow (Nice, but 1/day, only 1 shot and essentially just negates cover and concealment bonuses). Basically, one the main advantages you get from AA (imbue arrow) is usless without a lot more levels (in a spell casting class) and the other (+N arrows) can be duplicated by your mage using GMW. Furthermore, sneak attacks and ambushes should be S.O.P for an evil party attacking the goodie-goodies and the OBI's SA abilities can be devastating in those sort of situations. Particularly if you cast invis on the archer, that will enable the char to use it more often and that's plus 1d6 on up to 3 attacks per round at 7th level (or 2d6 if you wait 'til 8th). If it matters OBI is a better HD, though it gets somewhat less Skill points. It also has better Will saves than AA (a weak point for Ftrs). However it is somewhat of a moot point, since you need at least one level of mage/sorc and a +6 bab to qualify for AA. As a result you can't even take AA, before 8th lvl anyway (Sorc/Wiz +1/2lvs BAB so no bab+ at first lvl, thus 5/6 ftr lvs + 2/1 lv S-W, min 7 levels F/S-W before taking AA). If you had 20 levels or so to play with it would be come much more of a "6 of one, half-dozen of another" sort of situation as they both have some great abilities, but for low-med level char, OBI is definitely superior (now if you had the levels to take BOTH...) [/QUOTE]
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