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<blockquote data-quote="Mengu" data-source="post: 5856128" data-attributes="member: 65726">Longtooth shifter blackguard in our game, level 8, damage in the 30's is pretty common, something like 1d12+1d8+1d6+20'ish on a charge with CA if he or the target is bloodied. With 2 dread smites an encounter, he can get to 40's. And he's not all that optimized for basic attacks.With a Deva, and without charging, it's a little less straight forward, but it would not be surprising for the DM to observe damage in the 30's for whole encounters. Assuming Str 18, Cha 20, the bonuses will be something like:Base: 1d12+9CA: +5+2CA and bloodied: +2Vengeance Strike: +2It's going to be around 1d12+20, so mid-twenties. With Dread Smite (+9) twice an encounter it will be in mid-thirties. Once per encounter with Improved Shroud of Shadow it's another +7. There are a few other easy add-ons like +5 with Wrath of the Gods or Aspect of Ferocity for an extra 1d12. And then there are themes that might give him an encounter boost, in the form of a +5, or an extra [W]. So it could easily be that damage is frequently in the mid-thirties, particularly if there are subtle leader boosts. Blackguard+Panther Shaman can do crazy things to bloodied enemies.At level 10, 35 damage from a striker is nothing to be concerned about.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mengu, post: 5856128, member: 65726"] Longtooth shifter blackguard in our game, level 8, damage in the 30's is pretty common, something like 1d12+1d8+1d6+20'ish on a charge with CA if he or the target is bloodied. With 2 dread smites an encounter, he can get to 40's. And he's not all that optimized for basic attacks. With a Deva, and without charging, it's a little less straight forward, but it would not be surprising for the DM to observe damage in the 30's for whole encounters. Assuming Str 18, Cha 20, the bonuses will be something like: Base: 1d12+9 CA: +5+2 CA and bloodied: +2 Vengeance Strike: +2 It's going to be around 1d12+20, so mid-twenties. With Dread Smite (+9) twice an encounter it will be in mid-thirties. Once per encounter with Improved Shroud of Shadow it's another +7. There are a few other easy add-ons like +5 with Wrath of the Gods or Aspect of Ferocity for an extra 1d12. And then there are themes that might give him an encounter boost, in the form of a +5, or an extra [W]. So it could easily be that damage is frequently in the mid-thirties, particularly if there are subtle leader boosts. Blackguard+Panther Shaman can do crazy things to bloodied enemies. At level 10, 35 damage from a striker is nothing to be concerned about. [/QUOTE]

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