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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MrsMongoose" data-source="post: 8265199" data-attributes="member: 7026582">Our thoughts on Old Nick wereWe’ve sort of seen what happens to ghosts when they stick around for too long (they get stuck in their ways: e.g. Council); I’m still entertaining the idea that he was at least (semi)legit to begin with (if driven to hurt the Clergy for reasons) and became more “Nicodemus-y” as he went along (after keeping “dying”)?Otherwise, why try to do the Pala thing just after the Malice? We had a chat about that as to what we would say to our beardy naval captain and it’s probably the intent was there to make the world a better place before he strayed from his own path? (otherwise the teachings would not have lasted nearly 500 yrs as they did?)Also he’s not (quite) as smart as he thinks he is (he is still probably very smart now, but wasn’t as smart then due to time, but some of his actual current “smarts” are that he’s had the time to plot and plan in depth); he did get captured the first time (I guess due to misjudging someone that dobbed him in the library scene)…… then I can see him being outsmarted (again, in the past) into letting the Clergy pull a fast one on him if there are similar plotty high up guys there too…Ofc nowadays, like he said at ObCon™, he has to bum around in bodies to even get an inkling of how the plebs work… (the Heart vs Head conversation at the Convocation) his whole nature is Unfinished Business™ of the:“stuff that didn’t work the first time so he’s going to hit it repeatedly doing variations on a theme till it does work because it’s his brilliant idea and everyone else is stupid and has to be constantly manipulated into staying on task by killing strategic familial baggage otherwise it’s like herding cats…”. (That way lies madness)</blockquote>

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