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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thia Halmades" data-source="post: 2663273" data-attributes="member: 35863">Wait, wait, wait.  I distinctly remember reading this: So before your turn, I'd like to play a card.  There was another thread around here somewhere buried in the HR section which said, in short, let's get rid of the Clerics and combine the two spell lists.I haven't read the books, so I'm talking from a purely balance standpoint, and that point is this: If you're going to remove Clerics, then you cannot (okay, "should not", this being the HR board) give their spell list to a Sorceror/Wizard build AND give that build the Arcane base spell list.  It unbalances the class and you'll have these sort of bizarre, "I can do anything" caster types with very little reason to work with anyone else.  I doubt that's what you're looking for.Now, as I admitted, I haven't read the books (I think I got confused with Terry Brooks, but danged if I know anymore) so I'm not the person to help you do the build without more background information as to exactly what this class is supposed to accomplish.  I can definately, within a fair step, tell you if what you're doing is balanced or not, so let's work towards getting you there, and keeping your sense of accuracy to the class as you see it.Nyaricus & Cheiromancer: You've clearly read this series.  Are there specific points you can make to help me, the unitiated, come up with a build in a splat book or do a simple modification to an existing build that gets Morgoth closer to where he wants to be without breaking the balance mechanics?  Because I'd like to help, if I can, and recognizing that as an HR he can do what he likes, I would submit that doing what you like and keeping it balanced are two separate things.I'm honestly unsure if what he's talking about is a new base class, or as Cheiromancer says, it's actually closer to a PrC (which is what I'm assuming Mord-Sith are).</blockquote>

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