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<blockquote data-quote="Rakusia" data-source="post: 6165893" data-attributes="member: 87170"><p>deathblade. im sorry/ its expensive as all get out but if successful it does at least 3 points of constitution damage so losing 3 hit points for say a 12th level character with an 18 con would drop it to 15 taking it from a plus 4 to plus 2 effectively taking out 24 health plus the attack damage other side assuming natural 6's that would be 18 points of constitution drain and would in one hit kill the creature. even assuming you rolled a 2 3 1. thats 6 points going from 18 to 12. 12 is a +1 for a minus 3 constitution 3x12= 36 extra points of health loss.</p><p></p><p>[h=3]Ability Score Loss (<a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Su" target="_blank">Su</a>)[/h]<span style="color: #2A1804"><span style="font-family: 'sans-serif'">Some attacks reduce the opponent’s score in one or more abilities. This loss can be temporary (<a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Damage" target="_blank">ability damage</a>) or permanent (<a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Drain" target="_blank">ability drain</a>).</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #2A1804"><span style="font-family: 'sans-serif'">While any loss is debilitating, losing all points in an <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Scores" target="_blank">ability score</a> can be devastating.</span></span></p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Strength" target="_blank">Strength</a> 0 means that the character cannot move at all. He lies <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Helpless" target="_blank">helpless</a> on the ground.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Dexterity" target="_blank">Dexterity</a> 0 means that the character cannot move at all. He stands motionless, rigid, and <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Helpless" target="_blank">helpless</a>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Constitution" target="_blank">Constitution</a> 0 means that the character is <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Dead" target="_blank">dead</a>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Intelligence" target="_blank">Intelligence</a> 0 means that the character cannot think and is unconscious in a coma-like stupor, <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Helpless" target="_blank">helpless</a>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Wisdom" target="_blank">Wisdom</a> 0 means that the character is withdrawn into a deep sleep filled with nightmares, <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Helpless" target="_blank">helpless</a>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Charisma" target="_blank">Charisma</a> 0 means that the character is withdrawn into a catatonic, coma-like stupor, <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Helpless" target="_blank">helpless</a>.</li> </ul><p><span style="color: #2A1804"><span style="font-family: 'sans-serif'">Keeping track of negative <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Scores" target="_blank">ability score</a> points is never necessary. A character’s <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Scores" target="_blank">ability score</a> can’t drop below 0.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #2A1804"><span style="font-family: 'sans-serif'">Having a score of 0 in an ability is different from having no <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Scores" target="_blank">ability score</a> whatsoever.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #2A1804"><span style="font-family: 'sans-serif'">Some spells or abilities impose an effective <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Scores" target="_blank">ability score</a> reduction, which is different from <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Scores" target="_blank">ability score</a> loss. Any such reduction disappears at the end of the spell’s or ability’s duration, and the <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Scores" target="_blank">ability score</a> immediately returns to its former value.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #2A1804"><span style="font-family: 'sans-serif'">If a character’s <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Constitution" target="_blank">Constitution</a> score drops, then he loses 1 hit point per <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Hit_Dice" target="_blank">Hit Die</a> for every point by which his <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Constitution" target="_blank">Constitution</a> modifier drops. A hit point score can’t be reduced by <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Constitution" target="_blank">Constitution</a> damage or drain to less than 1 hit point per <a href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Hit_Dice" target="_blank">Hit Die</a>.</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rakusia, post: 6165893, member: 87170"] deathblade. im sorry/ its expensive as all get out but if successful it does at least 3 points of constitution damage so losing 3 hit points for say a 12th level character with an 18 con would drop it to 15 taking it from a plus 4 to plus 2 effectively taking out 24 health plus the attack damage other side assuming natural 6's that would be 18 points of constitution drain and would in one hit kill the creature. even assuming you rolled a 2 3 1. thats 6 points going from 18 to 12. 12 is a +1 for a minus 3 constitution 3x12= 36 extra points of health loss. [h=3]Ability Score Loss ([URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Su"]Su[/URL])[/h][COLOR=#2A1804][FONT=sans-serif]Some attacks reduce the opponent’s score in one or more abilities. This loss can be temporary ([URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Damage"]ability damage[/URL]) or permanent ([URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Drain"]ability drain[/URL]).[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#2A1804][FONT=sans-serif]While any loss is debilitating, losing all points in an [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Scores"]ability score[/URL] can be devastating.[/FONT][/COLOR] [LIST] [*][URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Strength"]Strength[/URL] 0 means that the character cannot move at all. He lies [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Helpless"]helpless[/URL] on the ground. [*][URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Dexterity"]Dexterity[/URL] 0 means that the character cannot move at all. He stands motionless, rigid, and [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Helpless"]helpless[/URL]. [*][URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Constitution"]Constitution[/URL] 0 means that the character is [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Dead"]dead[/URL]. [*][URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Intelligence"]Intelligence[/URL] 0 means that the character cannot think and is unconscious in a coma-like stupor, [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Helpless"]helpless[/URL]. [*][URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Wisdom"]Wisdom[/URL] 0 means that the character is withdrawn into a deep sleep filled with nightmares, [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Helpless"]helpless[/URL]. [*][URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Charisma"]Charisma[/URL] 0 means that the character is withdrawn into a catatonic, coma-like stupor, [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Helpless"]helpless[/URL]. [/LIST] [COLOR=#2A1804][FONT=sans-serif]Keeping track of negative [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Scores"]ability score[/URL] points is never necessary. A character’s [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Scores"]ability score[/URL] can’t drop below 0.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#2A1804][FONT=sans-serif]Having a score of 0 in an ability is different from having no [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Scores"]ability score[/URL] whatsoever.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#2A1804][FONT=sans-serif]Some spells or abilities impose an effective [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Scores"]ability score[/URL] reduction, which is different from [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Scores"]ability score[/URL] loss. Any such reduction disappears at the end of the spell’s or ability’s duration, and the [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ability_Scores"]ability score[/URL] immediately returns to its former value.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#2A1804][FONT=sans-serif]If a character’s [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Constitution"]Constitution[/URL] score drops, then he loses 1 hit point per [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Hit_Dice"]Hit Die[/URL] for every point by which his [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Constitution"]Constitution[/URL] modifier drops. A hit point score can’t be reduced by [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Constitution"]Constitution[/URL] damage or drain to less than 1 hit point per [URL="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Hit_Dice"]Hit Die[/URL].[/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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