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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 1483947" data-attributes="member: 114">A 10th level bard gives all his allies +2 hit and damage with his inspiring song - that makes mooks even better. Plus, what if the bard has entranced a lot of innocent townsfolk and then sends them (inspired) into battle with the PCs - perhaps all using aid-another grapples to pin people down and beat them up (especially if there are some rogues who can take advantage of sneak attack on pinned people).This last idea, if the PCs are of good alignment, gives them a nice moral quandary. The monk can still do subdual unarmed damage, so he is OK, but the others surely don't want to go chopping down basically decent citizens who have been mind-controlled.Even better if some of those attacking them are the innkeeper, the butcher, the baker, the armourer that they know and have had dealings with&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool&nbsp; &nbsp; :cool:"&nbsp; data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /> Even better if the evil bard has lots of charmed children he can throw between himself and the party :evil:BTW, it sounds like your gf is using a lot of OOC knowledge about the situation. Naughty naughty! Throw in an obvious red-herring mind-control creature.Make sure that the Bard Dominates the Barbarian and uses him to hack down the cleric and the monk. With the huge duration of domination try to get him long before the final encounter if possible (especially if the party have stinted on purchasing &quot;sense motive&quot;. If the rogue is a &quot;sense motive&quot; genius try to grab him instead). It would be great for the party to meet up with the bard and the party barbarian suddenly opens up hostilities by smiting his friends. Mwa-ha-ha-ha!Cheers</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 1483947, member: 114"] A 10th level bard gives all his allies +2 hit and damage with his inspiring song - that makes mooks even better. Plus, what if the bard has entranced a lot of innocent townsfolk and then sends them (inspired) into battle with the PCs - perhaps all using aid-another grapples to pin people down and beat them up (especially if there are some rogues who can take advantage of sneak attack on pinned people). This last idea, if the PCs are of good alignment, gives them a nice moral quandary. The monk can still do subdual unarmed damage, so he is OK, but the others surely don't want to go chopping down basically decent citizens who have been mind-controlled. Even better if some of those attacking them are the innkeeper, the butcher, the baker, the armourer that they know and have had dealings with :cool: Even better if the evil bard has lots of charmed children he can throw between himself and the party :evil: BTW, it sounds like your gf is using a lot of OOC knowledge about the situation. Naughty naughty! Throw in an obvious red-herring mind-control creature. Make sure that the Bard [I]Dominates [/I] the Barbarian and uses him to hack down the cleric and the monk. With the huge duration of domination try to get him long before the final encounter if possible (especially if the party have stinted on purchasing "sense motive". If the rogue is a "sense motive" genius try to grab him instead). It would be great for the party to meet up with the bard and the party barbarian suddenly opens up hostilities by smiting his friends. Mwa-ha-ha-ha! Cheers [/QUOTE]

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