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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 541069" data-attributes="member: 224">Wow.I'm just not sure where to begin here.&nbsp; Let's try this:&nbsp; Guys, take a break.&nbsp; Relax.&nbsp; Sit back an' crack open a cold one.&nbsp; Y'all are taking this anti-meta-gaming schtick just a little too seriously.Here's what I'm talkin' about:&quot;Refuse to even acknowledge&quot;, eh?&nbsp; Nice one.As for the rest:
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1) Of course it bends the spirit of the rules.&nbsp; That's part of the fun.&nbsp; You'll note, however, that it doesn't break any of them.&nbsp; Cool, huh? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :P"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /> 
2) There's nothing &quot;clear&quot; about it.&nbsp; Gating a solar also &quot;makes it something other than a one on one battle&quot;.&nbsp; Heck, Summon Monster I does that too.&nbsp; Feh. 
3) Yup, th' dragon could use these tactics too.&nbsp; The question really becomes: will th' DM think of it too? (BTW, there's a good tactic to use should this come up.)</li>
</ul>You, too, seem to have missed th' point.&nbsp; And you may need to re-think your own definition of 'metagaming&quot;. BTW, it's been pointed out by at least one of the designers of 3e that the CRs of dragons was purposely set too low, because PCs are likely to be more prepared for a dragon when they meet one.&nbsp; In simpler terms: the designers expect metagaming (your definition, not mine) when fighting dragons.Again: take a deep breath, buddy.&nbsp; Yer hyperventilating.&quot;Unrealistic&quot;?&nbsp; Which part, exactly, is realistic when fighting a dragon?&nbsp; You have dragons in your neighborhood, kid?&nbsp; (Lucky sop.)Take my advice: Go over to th' blackboard and write out &quot;I play D&amp;D for fun.&quot; 50 times.&nbsp; By the end you'll feel much better.&nbsp; ...or at least I will.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nail, post: 541069, member: 224"] Wow. I'm just not sure where to begin here. Let's try this: Guys, take a break. Relax. Sit back an' crack open a cold one. Y'all are taking this anti-meta-gaming schtick just a [i]little[/i] too seriously. Here's what I'm talkin' about: "[i]Refuse to even acknowledge[/i]", eh? Nice one. As for the rest: [list] 1) [b]Of course[/b] it bends the spirit of the rules. That's part of the fun. You'll note, however, that it doesn't [u]break[/u] any of them. Cool, huh? :P 2) There's nothing "clear" about it. [I]Gating[/i] a solar also "makes it something other than a one on one battle". Heck, [i]Summon Monster I[/i] does that too. Feh. 3) Yup, th' dragon could use these tactics too. The question really becomes: will th' DM think of it too? (BTW, there's a good tactic to use should this come up.)[/list] You, too, seem to have missed th' point. And you may need to re-think your own definition of '[i]metagaming[/i]". BTW, it's been pointed out by at least one of the designers of 3e that the CRs of dragons was purposely set too low, [i]because PCs are likely to be more prepared[/i] for a dragon when they meet one. In simpler terms: the designers [u]expect[/u] metagaming (your definition, not mine) when fighting dragons. Again: take a deep breath, buddy. Yer hyperventilating. "Unrealistic"? Which part, exactly, is realistic when fighting a [u]dragon[/u]? You have dragons in your neighborhood, kid? (Lucky sop.) Take my advice: Go over to th' blackboard and write out "[i]I play D&D for [u]fun[/u].[/i]" 50 times. By the end you'll feel much better. ...or at least I will. :D [/QUOTE]

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