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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Larry Fitz" data-source="post: 548546" data-attributes="member: 3949">It's not called "Dungeons and 17th level Sorcerors/1st level Paladins" gang. I was going to wait till I had a chance to re-read "Gate" before posting, but I thought, hey, this is Enworld, if I'm mistaken, someone will flame me for it, quote the relevant passage, and I'll stand corrected.  When you try to Gate in your Solars, why would they have to attack the dragon for you? What if it is a Half-Celestial Gold Dragon? Or Heck, just a Gold Dragon Priest of a LG god? Arrows of Slaying you say? If it casts a Death Ward (that is from PHB isn't it?) it buys itself enough time to croak you , even with your Solar buddies attacking a creature they have no beef with.... Don't forget the possibility that the Dragon can cast Mord's Disj on you, then your staff and scrolls are just a nifty idea that didn't quite work out as planned. As to the wording of contingencies for Ludicrous Old Wyrms; I have to agree with the posters that assert that the Dragon can word the spells to fit his intent. Because the creature is actually smarter than most DM's, you have to give it advantages like that to accurately portray it's intellectual superiority. That's what makes these things the creatures of fearsome legend that they are, not just that they are big fire-breathing flying lizards, but that they are big fire-breathing flying lizards that are scary smart.Long-live BADD!!!!</blockquote>