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<blockquote data-quote="Mortaneus" data-source="post: 550159" data-attributes="member: 485"><p>Hmm....let's try this one: </p><p></p><p>Rogue 18</p><p></p><p>32 point buy:</p><p>STR 8</p><p>DEX 18 (28)</p><p>CON 8</p><p>INT 8</p><p>WIS 8</p><p>CHA 18 (24)</p><p></p><p>Feats: Imp Initiative, Skill Focus (Use Magic Device)</p><p></p><p>Skills:</p><p>Use Magic Device 21 ranks</p><p></p><p>Rogue Special Ability: Skill Mastery (UMD)</p><p></p><p>With all of these, that means that you can automatically hit a DC40 on your UMD roll (10 (skill mastery)+21 ranks+7 CHA+2 skill focus = 40).</p><p></p><p>According to the description of UMD, that means that you can use a scroll as if you had a caster lvl of 20.</p><p></p><p>Now, the fun:</p><p></p><p>Items (440,000 gp):</p><p>Cloak of Cha +6</p><p>Gloves of Dex +6</p><p></p><p>368k GP left....</p><p></p><p>A scroll of Time Stop costs: 17 (clvl)*9(slvl)*25 = 3825 gp</p><p></p><p>A scroll of horrid wilting at 20th clvl costs: 20 (clvl) * 8 (slvl) * 25 = 4000 gp</p><p></p><p>Now, just stock up on these with all the remaining money. You can use them automatically. Heck, put them all on one big long sheet of paper. Since, on average, you'll get 3.5 rounds from a time stop, and one of those rounds should be spent casting a time stop, that means you should have 2.5 HWs for every time stop. With your remaining money, that equates to:</p><p></p><p>2.5 HWs (4k*2.5=10k) + TS (3825gp) = 13,825 GP per 2.5 horrid wiltings.</p><p></p><p>Meaning, you should pick up 27 time stops and 66 horrid wiltings. You should be able to throw all of the horrid wiltings with that, in a single round.</p><p></p><p>Now, 20th clvl HW vs. dragon's SR33 (assuming GW gold). 40% chance of success each.</p><p></p><p>Dragon will make all fort saves.</p><p></p><p>That's 20d8 each...avg damage 90, half damage 45.</p><p></p><p>45 dmg*66 spells = 2970 * 40% = 1188 damage on average.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, rogue goes on +13 init, dragon on +4 at best.</p><p></p><p>If rogue goes first, which is quite likely, on average the dragon is quite toast.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mortaneus, post: 550159, member: 485"] Hmm....let's try this one: Rogue 18 32 point buy: STR 8 DEX 18 (28) CON 8 INT 8 WIS 8 CHA 18 (24) Feats: Imp Initiative, Skill Focus (Use Magic Device) Skills: Use Magic Device 21 ranks Rogue Special Ability: Skill Mastery (UMD) With all of these, that means that you can automatically hit a DC40 on your UMD roll (10 (skill mastery)+21 ranks+7 CHA+2 skill focus = 40). According to the description of UMD, that means that you can use a scroll as if you had a caster lvl of 20. Now, the fun: Items (440,000 gp): Cloak of Cha +6 Gloves of Dex +6 368k GP left.... A scroll of Time Stop costs: 17 (clvl)*9(slvl)*25 = 3825 gp A scroll of horrid wilting at 20th clvl costs: 20 (clvl) * 8 (slvl) * 25 = 4000 gp Now, just stock up on these with all the remaining money. You can use them automatically. Heck, put them all on one big long sheet of paper. Since, on average, you'll get 3.5 rounds from a time stop, and one of those rounds should be spent casting a time stop, that means you should have 2.5 HWs for every time stop. With your remaining money, that equates to: 2.5 HWs (4k*2.5=10k) + TS (3825gp) = 13,825 GP per 2.5 horrid wiltings. Meaning, you should pick up 27 time stops and 66 horrid wiltings. You should be able to throw all of the horrid wiltings with that, in a single round. Now, 20th clvl HW vs. dragon's SR33 (assuming GW gold). 40% chance of success each. Dragon will make all fort saves. That's 20d8 each...avg damage 90, half damage 45. 45 dmg*66 spells = 2970 * 40% = 1188 damage on average. So, rogue goes on +13 init, dragon on +4 at best. If rogue goes first, which is quite likely, on average the dragon is quite toast. [/QUOTE]
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