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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Olgar Shiverstone" data-source="post: 1004909" data-attributes="member: 5868">Mistledale Campaigners and EN Worlders are welcome to stop by today and ogle (if you can find me, ha ha!)ECL is explained in the DMG, page 172.  The MM has a brief discussion of it pon page 290 where it discusses monsters and class levels.There's a page devoted to determineing monster CR in the section of the MM devoted to designing monsters, page 302.Aside:  I really like having all the "monster theory" together in one section of the MM.  Makes it easy to find.I'm having a harder time finding stuff in the DMG -- the layout is really logical for someone picking up the book for the first time, but I keep looking in the chapters from the 3.0 book.  So far everything's still in there, but information has changed chapters (the CR/XP table is now on page 36, for example).</blockquote>