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<blockquote data-quote="CCH_LLC" data-source="post: 4122370" data-attributes="member: 52995">Apologies in advance if this is a duplicate of other threads, but I am recently back to D&amp;D and finding myself a bit overwhelmed by all the information.&nbsp; I am pretty familiar with the D20 system and if you check my history you will see I have asked similar questions to this for other classes, but that was a while ago and since then I have been playing rifts don't really know where to start when 3.5 optimization is concerned.&nbsp; So here is my challenge to the forum prodigies, I am going to join a Temple of Elemental Evil campaign, and I want to build a character that is effective in social situations, and in encounters is more of a battle field controller then someone who deals damage himself.&nbsp; I have seen the Beguiler handbook <a href="http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=805782" target="_blank">here</a> and while I can see it is very well written and comprehensive, it is way more then I can really digest.&nbsp; Also all of the builds go up to 20, and I will just be level 5.&nbsp; I have already rolled stats and lucked out with a 17, 15, 14, 14, 13, 12 which is phenomenal to be honest (we get to reroll ones)and I think I have a lot of potential with that.&nbsp; All wizards books are available, but please cite your sources.&nbsp; Also I don't really want to dip into any other classes, but if it does something cool then by all means suggest it.&nbsp; Also I am not really interested in being a replacement rogue, I would really prefer to be a face for the party/sneaky bastard/battlefield controller.&nbsp; Basically something I can get points for being clever and manipulated in battle and out of it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CCH_LLC, post: 4122370, member: 52995"] Apologies in advance if this is a duplicate of other threads, but I am recently back to D&D and finding myself a bit overwhelmed by all the information. I am pretty familiar with the D20 system and if you check my history you will see I have asked similar questions to this for other classes, but that was a while ago and since then I have been playing rifts don't really know where to start when 3.5 optimization is concerned. So here is my challenge to the forum prodigies, I am going to join a Temple of Elemental Evil campaign, and I want to build a character that is effective in social situations, and in encounters is more of a battle field controller then someone who deals damage himself. I have seen the Beguiler handbook [URL=http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=805782]here[/URL] and while I can see it is very well written and comprehensive, it is way more then I can really digest. Also all of the builds go up to 20, and I will just be level 5. I have already rolled stats and lucked out with a 17, 15, 14, 14, 13, 12 which is phenomenal to be honest (we get to reroll ones)and I think I have a lot of potential with that. All wizards books are available, but please cite your sources. Also I don't really want to dip into any other classes, but if it does something cool then by all means suggest it. Also I am not really interested in being a replacement rogue, I would really prefer to be a face for the party/sneaky bastard/battlefield controller. Basically something I can get points for being clever and manipulated in battle and out of it. [/QUOTE]

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