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<blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 4647298" data-attributes="member: 9789"><p>I don't think you can use a triple-headed flail and still use any rogue powers. A ruthless ruffian gives you the ability to use rogue powers with a club or a mace, which means your options are a club, mace, or light blades (and some have some ranged weapons that work). That's the thing that keeps rogues in check: they can take other weapon proficiencies, sure, but they can't use rogue powers with them.</p><p></p><p>As it stands, a 1d10 mace is nothing to sneeze at. (Although a brute strike rogue with a 1d8 kukri - brutal 1 - isn't bad, either.) If you're going the ruthless ruffian route, be sure to pump both Dex and Str and ignore everything else. You could start with 16s in each and have 18s with the racial abilities. That means for every rattling power, you'd be adding 8 (4 dex and 4 str), and if you're wielding the mace two-handed, that's another +1. You can also take weapon focus (mace) as your level 1 feat, giving a total of +10 to damage with melee mace attacks, plus sneak attack if you have combat advantage. So disheartening strike, the at-will from Martial Power, will do 1d10 + 10 on a melee hit, plus 2d6 if you have CA, plus give -2 to the enemy's attack for a round. Alternately, you can take backstabber: this raises the sneak attack damage to 2d8, but it only helps if you have CA.</p><p></p><p>Otherwise just focus on grabbing all the rattling powers you can, so you can keep adding that strength bonus whenever possible. Large shuriken (normally 1d6) will do 1d8 in your hands; that's still 1d8 + 8 with disheartening strike, plus sneak attack if you have CA. Not too shabby for an at-will.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="evilbob, post: 4647298, member: 9789"] I don't think you can use a triple-headed flail and still use any rogue powers. A ruthless ruffian gives you the ability to use rogue powers with a club or a mace, which means your options are a club, mace, or light blades (and some have some ranged weapons that work). That's the thing that keeps rogues in check: they can take other weapon proficiencies, sure, but they can't use rogue powers with them. As it stands, a 1d10 mace is nothing to sneeze at. (Although a brute strike rogue with a 1d8 kukri - brutal 1 - isn't bad, either.) If you're going the ruthless ruffian route, be sure to pump both Dex and Str and ignore everything else. You could start with 16s in each and have 18s with the racial abilities. That means for every rattling power, you'd be adding 8 (4 dex and 4 str), and if you're wielding the mace two-handed, that's another +1. You can also take weapon focus (mace) as your level 1 feat, giving a total of +10 to damage with melee mace attacks, plus sneak attack if you have combat advantage. So disheartening strike, the at-will from Martial Power, will do 1d10 + 10 on a melee hit, plus 2d6 if you have CA, plus give -2 to the enemy's attack for a round. Alternately, you can take backstabber: this raises the sneak attack damage to 2d8, but it only helps if you have CA. Otherwise just focus on grabbing all the rattling powers you can, so you can keep adding that strength bonus whenever possible. Large shuriken (normally 1d6) will do 1d8 in your hands; that's still 1d8 + 8 with disheartening strike, plus sneak attack if you have CA. Not too shabby for an at-will. [/QUOTE]
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