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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus2" data-source="post: 3326906" data-attributes="member: 11586">Based off your initial post, how are we supposed to how your DM is playing Shadow Pounce?&nbsp; If he is going to make up his own house rules on how it works, and if it has limits, we kinda need to know that.&nbsp; You asked for the &quot;best build&quot; and I gave you one idea.If your DM nerfs it, then the combo will still work.&nbsp; Use Shadow Stride or Shadow Jaunt to &quot;jump&quot; to an opponent (one is a Move action, the other is a Standard, I forget which is which), get your full attack, and then Shadow Blink (swift action) to safety.You could also try to dip into Shadowdancer or aquire Hide in Plain Sight.&nbsp; Then Shadow Stride/Jaunt/Blink to an opponent, and after the attack Hide in Plain Sight <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I don't think they are related.&nbsp; Shadow Pounce triggers off of a &quot;dimension door&quot; effect when you instantly appear next to someone.&nbsp; Spring Attack is a special action that lets you move, attack, move.&nbsp; Why would you Spring Attack if you could just instantly &quot;dimension door&quot; next to someone?&nbsp; The specific &quot;dimension door&quot; ability is what is important when determining if you can Spring Attack with it.&nbsp; You have to look at the wording, but none of the ones I know about would work with a Spring Attack.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RigaMortus2, post: 3326906, member: 11586"] Based off your initial post, how are we supposed to how your DM is playing Shadow Pounce? If he is going to make up his own house rules on how it works, and if it has limits, we kinda need to know that. You asked for the "best build" and I gave you one idea. If your DM nerfs it, then the combo will still work. Use Shadow Stride or Shadow Jaunt to "jump" to an opponent (one is a Move action, the other is a Standard, I forget which is which), get your full attack, and then Shadow Blink (swift action) to safety. You could also try to dip into Shadowdancer or aquire Hide in Plain Sight. Then Shadow Stride/Jaunt/Blink to an opponent, and after the attack Hide in Plain Sight :) I don't think they are related. Shadow Pounce triggers off of a "dimension door" effect when you instantly appear next to someone. Spring Attack is a special action that lets you move, attack, move. Why would you Spring Attack if you could just instantly "dimension door" next to someone? The specific "dimension door" ability is what is important when determining if you can Spring Attack with it. You have to look at the wording, but none of the ones I know about would work with a Spring Attack. [/QUOTE]

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