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<blockquote data-quote="brehobit" data-source="post: 3424823" data-attributes="member: 12032">Crusader is fine as long as you use the cards (on the WoTC site).&nbsp; In fact, easier than spells with the cards.&nbsp; Without them it is almost unplayable IME.&nbsp; (I make the swordsage in my party use them too.)If you are going to go crusader/cleric I'd go with Ruby Knight Vindicator as a PrC. (Crusader 1/cleric2/crusader2/RKV2/crusader1/RKV).&nbsp; It certainly isn't the best PrC in the world, but it is good and it is cool (well good once you hit 7th level and finally get 2nd level spells...)&nbsp; I'd go pure crusader myself (maybe a one level dip into swordsage or warblade around level 9).&nbsp; Crusaders are just the tankiest of tanks.If you want to tank as a crusader take the feats that grant an extra readied maneuver and let you heal when you recover.&nbsp; With the above build you will always do this on round 4 (and 3+level hit points is nice as a free action!).&nbsp; Also stone power is a must (either 3rd or 6th level).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="brehobit, post: 3424823, member: 12032"] Crusader is fine as long as you use the cards (on the WoTC site). In fact, easier than spells with the cards. Without them it is almost unplayable IME. (I make the swordsage in my party use them too.) If you are going to go crusader/cleric I'd go with Ruby Knight Vindicator as a PrC. (Crusader 1/cleric2/crusader2/RKV2/crusader1/RKV). It certainly isn't the best PrC in the world, but it is good and it is cool (well good once you hit 7th level and finally get 2nd level spells...) I'd go pure crusader myself (maybe a one level dip into swordsage or warblade around level 9). Crusaders are just the tankiest of tanks. If you want to tank as a crusader take the feats that grant an extra readied maneuver and let you heal when you recover. With the above build you will always do this on round 4 (and 3+level hit points is nice as a free action!). Also stone power is a must (either 3rd or 6th level). [/QUOTE]

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