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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 1151440" data-attributes="member: 5100">Not bad.  Not quite in keeping with the character concept, but not a bad starting point. It does, however, lend validation to a sneaking suspicion that I've been having.  The ECL modifier is just going to be too high.  We'd like to figure out a way to keep it to a maximum of a +2.  If a few weaknesses were fleshed out to reduce it to +1, that would be even better. As part of the curse, the character will have another template, roughly equivalent to Fiendish (+1).  If the total gets above about a +3, we consider the character unplayable, since we'll be starting the game at the lowest level possible given ECLs of the characters (so far, this is the only one with a template).  Regardless of what WotC says, a 4th ECL character with only 1 HD isn't playable.</blockquote>