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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2730522" data-attributes="member: 19675">Take a closer look at the anthropomorphs...some of them are High LA/Low HD, but some are High HD/Low LA!&nbsp; Read them closely!&nbsp; They all range between 1-5 ECL, with 1-3HD.Savage Species also has several templates that are moderately low LA, and while many of the monsters actually in the book are High ECL, there are a few, like the Bugbear, that are low ECL and VERY playable.&nbsp; Plus, the Half-Ogre (new race) is only a +1LA creature!Feral and Reptilian templates are pretty good with relatively low LAs (+1 and +2, respectively), but the #1 sleeper template is Multi-headed.&nbsp; It is +2 LA/head, +2HD/head, +2LA for Learnean, +1LA for Cryo or Pyro....if you take the basic Multi-headed template for a medium size creature (maximum +1 head), its a +4ECL template that adds +2HD, which (partially) gets around that pesky low HD problem.However, the fun doesn't stop there!&nbsp; Multi-headed gives +2 bonuses to Listen/Seach/Spot checks, AND because each head controls an arm seperately, it eliminates 2wf penalties (functionally, Superior 2WF feat), and gets Improved Initiative and Combat Reflexes as bonus feats.With all of that on a Human Lvl 1 Fighter as the base creature...thats 5 feats, 6 if you count the S2wf, for a 5 ECL critter.&nbsp; On the surface, that is roughly equivalent to the number of feats a Lvl 5 Fighter would have, but that S2wf effectively gives you several more (since you don't need any of the prerequisite feats).That said...what kind of overall LA/ECL are you looking for?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 2730522, member: 19675"] Take a closer look at the anthropomorphs...some of them are High LA/Low HD, but some are High HD/Low LA! Read them closely! They all range between 1-5 ECL, with 1-3HD. Savage Species also has several templates that are moderately low LA, and while many of the monsters actually in the book are High ECL, there are a few, like the Bugbear, that are low ECL and VERY playable. Plus, the Half-Ogre (new race) is only a +1LA creature! Feral and Reptilian templates are pretty good with relatively low LAs (+1 and +2, respectively), but the #1 sleeper template is Multi-headed. It is +2 LA/head, +2HD/head, +2LA for Learnean, +1LA for Cryo or Pyro. ...if you take the basic Multi-headed template for a medium size creature (maximum +1 head), its a +4ECL template that adds +2HD, which (partially) gets around that pesky low HD problem. However, the fun doesn't stop there! Multi-headed gives +2 bonuses to Listen/Seach/Spot checks, AND because each head controls an arm seperately, it [I]eliminates[/I] 2wf penalties (functionally, Superior 2WF feat), and gets Improved Initiative and Combat Reflexes as bonus feats. With all of that on a Human Lvl 1 Fighter as the base creature...thats 5 feats, 6 if you count the S2wf, for a 5 ECL critter. On the surface, that is roughly equivalent to the number of feats a Lvl 5 Fighter would have, but that S2wf effectively gives you several more (since you don't need any of the prerequisite feats). That said...what kind of overall LA/ECL are you looking for? [/QUOTE]

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