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Message: <blockquote data-quote="drothgery" data-source="post: 5518431" data-attributes="member: 360"><p>Yeah, melee training is only useful if</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You're going to be making a lot of melee basic attacks (from being an Essentials martial build, opportunity attacks, marks, granted by a leader, charging, or whatever)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">You're not going to have a high Str (with the Essentials changes, even if you're starting with a 14 pre-racial mod Str and 18 pre-racial mod primary stat, as long as you plan on boosting Str, melee training isn't really worth it anymore)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Your class/build doesn't have a class feature that lets you use its primary stat for melee basic attacks (for examlple, the Essentials Thief can use Dex for melee basic attacks)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Your class/build doesn't have an at-will power that can be used as a melee basic attack (there is a Cha paladin power that can be used as a melee basic attack)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Your class/build doesn't give you access to a superior feat (Intelligent Blademaster is strictly better than Melee Training (Intelligence), but you need to be a swordmage to take it)</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>