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Message: <blockquote data-quote="notjer" data-source="post: 3255914" data-attributes="member: 17049">Challange them/him in some other ways. Maybe they're under great pressure from enemies and a good plan would be to set up a lot of traps (screw the rules). You could also sepperate them and pull it out like somekind of gladiator fight.You could also try to challange them with political issuse - throw them into it, maybe they know something a big organization wouldn't like them to know, maybe they have cooperated with a powerful magician and arcane order are really pissed because he forced them to slay some arcane order members. Catch 'em and cast Quest on them to do a mission to live on.Sorry if it's hard to understand because of grammar etc., I just suck ;P</blockquote>