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<blockquote data-quote="Wyvernhand" data-source="post: 5652125" data-attributes="member: 97681">Just because you can fix it, doesn't mean its not broken. The opposite, actually. The existence of the requirement of the DM to arbitrate spell choice means that the system is unbalanced. It's a self proving point.Also, your other point, the one about weapons, is flat out wrong. The solution to every problem is not successively bigger bombs. If it was, we'd have just glassed Osama bin Laden. Just because it is bigger and more destructive, doesn't mean its better. A degree of finesse is often the better solution. A semi full of nukes has no finesse, and neither does a charger fighter. If the solution can't be solved with a ton of damage at melee range, he has no solution.If you want to houserule that a Sorcerer can't learn Contact Other Plane, you are welcome to. There are plenty of other ridiculous spells, just in the PHB, that are just as bad. You are only addressing the symptom, at that point. And that's not even going into these &quot;splat&quot; books you seem to have an irrational hatred for, most of which are more balanced than the PHB because they don't contain Polymorph, Shapechange, Wish, Gate, or Simulacrum.Anyway, this discussion is about monks. I tried to tie it back in, but you drag it back out. If you really want to debate spellcasters and the tier system, I invite you to start a new thread so I can drag you down to my level and beat you with experience. Leave your house rules at home, though, we don't debate their existence on the internet because everyone has different ones and there is no common ground to discuss.EDIT: Also, you don't have to quote my post unless you are addressing specific points. It's right there next to yours, in case the readers forgot what I said. Its cluttered and looks sloppy when people do that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wyvernhand, post: 5652125, member: 97681"] Just because you can fix it, doesn't mean its not broken. The opposite, actually. The existence of the requirement of the DM to arbitrate spell choice means that the system is unbalanced. It's a self proving point. Also, your other point, the one about weapons, is flat out wrong. The solution to every problem is not successively bigger bombs. If it was, we'd have just glassed Osama bin Laden. Just because it is bigger and more destructive, doesn't mean its better. A degree of finesse is often the better solution. A semi full of nukes has no finesse, and neither does a charger fighter. If the solution can't be solved with a ton of damage at melee range, he has no solution. If you want to houserule that a Sorcerer can't learn Contact Other Plane, you are welcome to. There are plenty of other ridiculous spells, just in the PHB, that are just as bad. You are only addressing the symptom, at that point. And that's not even going into these "splat" books you seem to have an irrational hatred for, most of which are more balanced than the PHB because they don't contain Polymorph, Shapechange, Wish, Gate, or Simulacrum. Anyway, this discussion is about monks. I tried to tie it back in, but you drag it back out. If you really want to debate spellcasters and the tier system, I invite you to start a new thread so I can drag you down to my level and beat you with experience. Leave your house rules at home, though, we don't debate their existence on the internet because everyone has different ones and there is no common ground to discuss. EDIT: Also, you don't have to quote my post unless you are addressing specific points. It's right there next to yours, in case the readers forgot what I said. Its cluttered and looks sloppy when people do that. [/QUOTE]

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