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<blockquote data-quote="Jackinthegreen" data-source="post: 5652724" data-attributes="member: 6678119">Well, if a level 20 Monk was dead set on AC, he'd at least do the following:Start with 18 Wis.&nbsp; Improve this by 10 through leveling and a Tome of Understanding. Add in a +6 Periapt of Wisdom, so we're looking at 34 Wis now for a +12 mod.&nbsp; Add in the Monk's natural +4 AC and we're at +16.26 AC...&nbsp; Yeah, crappy so far.Bracers of Armor +8.&nbsp; Woohoo, 34 AC now!Dusty Rose Ioun Stone: +1 Insight ACLet's get ridiculous and say he also started at 18 Dex and used a Manual of Quickness of Action to up it to 23, and then Gloves of Dexterity +6, so 29 for a +9 bonus.44 so far, which is decent.&nbsp; Combat Expertise for another +5 I guess.&nbsp; I'd say add a Monk's Belt in there, but +1 AC is laughable.The cost for this AC is likewise laughable though at nearly double a level 20 character's WBL.Weapon Finesse and Power Attack might give some decent damage, but it's still 2d10 damage.&nbsp; Enlarge a Goliath Fighter 1 with EWP: Fullblade and he's doing 4d8 base damage per hit or something?&nbsp; Yeah, 18 base average damage right there.And Visi, in my experience clerics roll quite well.&nbsp; Down hills.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jackinthegreen, post: 5652724, member: 6678119"] Well, if a level 20 Monk was dead set on AC, he'd at least do the following: Start with 18 Wis. Improve this by 10 through leveling and a Tome of Understanding. Add in a +6 Periapt of Wisdom, so we're looking at 34 Wis now for a +12 mod. Add in the Monk's natural +4 AC and we're at +16. 26 AC... Yeah, crappy so far. Bracers of Armor +8. Woohoo, 34 AC now! Dusty Rose Ioun Stone: +1 Insight AC Let's get ridiculous and say he also started at 18 Dex and used a Manual of Quickness of Action to up it to 23, and then Gloves of Dexterity +6, so 29 for a +9 bonus. 44 so far, which is decent. Combat Expertise for another +5 I guess. I'd say add a Monk's Belt in there, but +1 AC is laughable. The cost for this AC is likewise laughable though at nearly double a level 20 character's WBL. Weapon Finesse and Power Attack might give some decent damage, but it's still 2d10 damage. Enlarge a Goliath Fighter 1 with EWP: Fullblade and he's doing 4d8 base damage per hit or something? Yeah, 18 base average damage right there. And Visi, in my experience clerics roll quite well. Down hills. [/QUOTE]

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