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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Thayan Menace" data-source="post: 1703329" data-attributes="member: 18307">Ehlonna's Clerics & Grevious Plot HammeringThe key word is demand. Ideally, it should be a request.Do not tell me that you are actually forcing PCs to pick certain skills and feats.You might as well run the characters yourself.There should always be room to search for Truth (i.e., practice free speech) amongst friends.As someone who appreciates open discourse, I am both dismayed and saddened by your veiled rancor and apparent disregard for your players' gaming options.Even so, I bear you no ill will.In fact, you have inadvertently given me some great ideas for my campaign (e.g., treant bodyguards and myconid cohorts) ... so I thank you for the conversation; at least it has been insightful to me.So long as they do not criticize your campaign plot by questioning your insistence on them playing a female cleric of Ehlonna.Man, if I was having this problem, I would simply insert an appropriate NPC and save my players the headache.Although you seem to be a succesful DM with a dedicated group, I would still give some serious thought to your primary goal:You should be making a campaign that everyone will enjoy.Although clerics of Ehlonna can be really neat, not everyone will want to play one simply because the plot calls for it.</blockquote>