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<blockquote data-quote="The Thayan Menace" data-source="post: 1708350" data-attributes="member: 18307"><p><strong>[PLAIN]Limitations [Simulationist & Gamist Perspective][/PLAIN]</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You made two mistakes. A DM can <em>always</em> ad-hoc a limitation on the number of PCs who can treat the same wound.</p><p></p><p>The example of Krusk the Barbarian on p. 66 of the <em>PHB</em> is a case in point:</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Yellow">For instance, if Krusk has been badly wounded and is dying, Jozan can try a Heal check to keep him from losing more hit points. One other character can help Jozan. If the other character makes a Heal check against DC 10, then Jozan gets a +2 circumstance bonus on the Heal check he makes to help Krusk. <em>The DM rules that two characters couldn't help Jozan at the same time because a third person would just get in the way</em>.</span></p><p></p><p>Also, unless the PCs roleplayed creative new ways of treating a disease, I would rule against having more than one person assist in treatment. After all, if a third person tried to help out with the same methods, he would not change the <em>circumstances</em> of the bonus and thus not be eligible for a stacking bonus.</p><p></p><p>In other words, a nurse is helpful ... however another physician needs a fresh diagnosis in order for treatment to progress beyond its current state.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, I find it very difficult to believe that any wounded fighter would request medical assistance from his <em>entire party</em> before moving out; it's just not realistic ... or heroic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Thayan Menace, post: 1708350, member: 18307"] [b][PLAIN]Limitations [Simulationist & Gamist Perspective][/PLAIN][/b] You made two mistakes. A DM can [I]always[/I] ad-hoc a limitation on the number of PCs who can treat the same wound. The example of Krusk the Barbarian on p. 66 of the [I]PHB[/I] is a case in point: [COLOR=Yellow]For instance, if Krusk has been badly wounded and is dying, Jozan can try a Heal check to keep him from losing more hit points. One other character can help Jozan. If the other character makes a Heal check against DC 10, then Jozan gets a +2 circumstance bonus on the Heal check he makes to help Krusk. [I]The DM rules that two characters couldn't help Jozan at the same time because a third person would just get in the way[/I].[/COLOR] Also, unless the PCs roleplayed creative new ways of treating a disease, I would rule against having more than one person assist in treatment. After all, if a third person tried to help out with the same methods, he would not change the [I]circumstances[/I] of the bonus and thus not be eligible for a stacking bonus. In other words, a nurse is helpful ... however another physician needs a fresh diagnosis in order for treatment to progress beyond its current state. Furthermore, I find it very difficult to believe that any wounded fighter would request medical assistance from his [I]entire party[/I] before moving out; it's just not realistic ... or heroic. [/QUOTE]
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