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Message: <blockquote data-quote="airwalkrr" data-source="post: 2920797" data-attributes="member: 12460">Here is a sample Ftr16, Ftr12/Mnk12, Ftr12/Wiz12, Mnk16, and Wiz16.RegdarNG Human Ftr16Init +5; Senses Listen +12, Spot +12Languages CommonAC 34, touch 14, flat-footed 33; Dodge, Mobilityhp 172Fort +19, Ref +9, Will +11Spd 20 ft.Melee +5 bastard sword +27/+22/+17/+12 (1d10+16)Ranged +5 composite longbow +21/+16/+11/+6 (1d8+12)Base Atk +16; Grp +23Atk Options Blind-Fight, Cleave, Combat Reflexes, Improved Bull Rush, Power Attack, Spring AttackAbilities Str 25, Dex 13, Con 20, Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 8Feats Alertness, Blind-Fight, Cleave, Dodge, Exotic Weapon Proficiency (bastard sword), Greater Weapon Focus (bastard sword), Greater Weapon Specialization (bastard sword), Improved Bull Rush, Improved Initiative, Iron Will, Mobility, Power Attack, Quick Draw, Spring Attack, Weapon Focus (bastard sword), Weapon Specialization (bastard sword)Skills Intimidate +18, Listen +12, Spot +12Possessions +5 full plate, +5 heavy steel shield, +5 bastard sword, +5 composite longbow (+7 Str), +6 belt of giant strength, +6 amulet of health, +3 ring of protection, +4 cloak of resistanceMartial Artist RegdarNG Human Ftr12/Mnk12Init +9; Senses Listen +24, Spot +24Languages CommonAC 37, touch 27, flat-footed 37; Dodge, Mobilityhp 98Immune normal disease, poisonResist improved evasionFort +15, Ref +18, Will +20 (+22 against enchantments)Spd 70 ft.Melee unarmed strike +19/+19/+19/+14/+9 (2d6+5)Ranged shuriken +19/+19/+19/+14/+9 (1d2+5)Base Atk +12; Grp +17Atk Options Blind-Fight, Cleave, Combat Reflexes, Improved Bull Rush, Improved Trip, ki strike (magic, lawful), Power Attack, Spring Attack, Stunning Fist 12/day (DC 23)Special Actions abundant step 1/day, wholeness of body (24 hp/day)Abilities Str 20, Dex 20, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 24, Cha 8SQ slow fall 60 ft.Feats Alertness, Blind-Fight, Cleave, Combat Reflexes, Dodge, Greater Weapon Focus (unarmed strike), Greater Weapon Specialization (unarmed strike), Improved Bull Rush, Improved Initiative, Improved Trip, Improved Unarmed Strike, Mobility, Power Attack, Spring Attack, Stunning Fist, Weapon Focus (unarmed strike), Weapon Specialization (unarmed strike)Skills Balance +22, Climb +17, Escape Artist +20, Jump +35, Listen +24, Spot +24, Swim +17, Tumble +22Possessions +8 bracers of armor, +6 belt of giant strength, +6 periapt of wisdom, +6 gloves of Dexterity, +5 ring of protection, +5 cloak of resistance, pink rhomboid ioun stoneArcane RegdarNG Human Ftr12/Wiz12Init +8; Senses Listen +8, Spot +8Languages Common, Draconic, ElvenAC 25, touch 17, flat-footed 21; Dodge, Mobilityhp 113Fort +16, Ref +13, Will +15Spd 30 ft.Melee +3 greatsword +23/+18/+13 (2d6+13)Ranged +2 composite longbow +18/+13/+8 (1d8+8)Base Atk +12; Grp +18Atk Options Blind-Fight, Cleave, Improved Bull Rush, Power Attack, Spring AttackSpells Prepared6th-35th-44th-43rd-52nd-61st-60-4Abilities Str 22, Dex 18, Con 16, Int 22, Wis 10, Cha 8SQ toad familiarFeats Alertness (if familiar is within 5 ft.), Blind-Fight, Cleave, Dodge, Empower Spell, Greater Weapon Focus (greatsword), Greater Weapon Specialization (greatsword), Improved Bull Rush, Improved Initiative, Iron Will, Mobility, Power Attack, Quicken Spell, Scribe Scroll, Spring Attack, Weapon Focus (greatsword), Weapon Specialization (greatsword)Skills Concentration +18, Decipher Script +21, Intimidate +11, Knowledge (arcana) +21, Knowledge (the planes) +21, Knowledge (religion) +15, Listen +8, Spellcraft +23, Spot +8Possessions +8 bracers of armor, +3 greatsword, +2 composite longbow (+6 Str), +6 belt of giant strength, +6 headband of intellect, +4 gloves of Dexterity, +4 amulet of health, +4 ring of protection, +5 cloak of resistanceEmberLG Human Mnk16Init +9; Senses Listen +26, Spot +26Languages CommonAC 37, touch 29, flat-footed 37; Dodge, Mobilityhp 123Immune normal disease, poisonResist improved evasion; SR 26Fort +18, Ref +20, Will +22 (+24 against enchantments)Spd 80 ft.Melee unarmed strike +18/+18/+18/+13/+8 (2d8+2)Ranged shuriken +18/+18/+18/+13/+8 (1d2+2)Base Atk +12; Grp +13Atk Options Combat Reflexes, Improved Trip, ki strike (magic, lawful, adamantine), quivering palm (DC 25), Stunning Fist 16/day (DC 25)Special Actions abundant step 1/day, wholeness of body (32 hp/day)Abilities Str 14, Dex 20, Con 16, Int 10, Wis 24, Cha 8SQ slow fall 80 ft.Feats Blind-Fight, Combat Reflexes, Dodge, Mobility, Improved Initiative, Improved Trip, Improved Unarmed Strike, Spring Attack, Stunning Fist, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus (unarmed strike)Skills Balance +24, Jump +42, Listen +26, Spot +26, Tumble +26Possessions +8 bracers of armor, +6 periapt of wisdom, +6 gloves of Dexterity, gauntlets of ogre power, monk's belt, +5 ring of protection, +5 cloak of resistance, pink rhomboid ioun stone, dusty rose ioun stone, pearly white spindle ioun stoneNaullNG Human Wiz16Init +5; Senses Listen +11, Spot +11Languages Common, Draconic, ElvenAC 28, touch 20, flat-footed 23hp 121Fort +15, Ref +15, Will +16Spd 30 ft.Melee +1 quarterstaff +8/+3 (1d6)Base Atk +8; Grp +7Spells Prepared8th-27th-46th-45th-54th-53rd-62nd-61st-60-4Abilities Str 8, Dex 20, Con 20, Int 24, Wis 12, Cha 10SQ pseudodragon familiarFeats Alertness (if familiar is within 5 ft.), Empower Spell, Greater Spell Focus (conjuration), Greater Spell Focus (evocation), Greater Spell Penetration, Improved Familiar, Maximize Spell, Quicken Spell, Scribe Scroll, Spell Penetration, Spell Focus (conjuration), Spell Focus (evocation)Skills Concentration +24, Knowledge (arcana) +26, Knowledge (the planes) +20, Knowledge (religion) +12, Listen +11, Spellcraft +28, Spot +11Possessions +8 bracers of armor, +1 quarterstaff, +6 amulet of health, +6 headband of intellect, +5 gloves of Dexterity, +5 ring of protection, +5 cloak of resistance************************I don't see a huge disparity in power here. The multiclass characters are not vastly superior in any way since they have to split their disciplines. Nor is the fighter/monk inherently worse than the fighter/wizard. The fighter/monk has fewer defensive abilities but very similar AC and attack bonus to the monk. The only downside is hp, but improved evasion has to account for that somewhere, or the fighter/monk could get an amulet of health +6 instead of a periapt of wisdom +6 (lowers his AC, Will save, Spot and Listen, and stunning fist save DC by 3 though). Makes me think maybe you just let them roll hp every 3 levels for multiclass levels instead, since that would give the fighter/monk more hp.</blockquote>

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