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<blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 1651696" data-attributes="member: 9002">Well, melee or archer or enchanterWhat type of bard is this?&nbsp; Melee bard, archer bard, or enchanter bard?Bards don't have a lot of attack spells.&nbsp; They do have a lot of utility/tactical/buff spells.&nbsp; This means that, if you don't have a high charisma, it's ok.&nbsp; You can simply never cast an attack spell (with a DC) in your entire career, and still be a fun capable bard.&nbsp; (or, rather, cast a few attacks spells now and then, but don't think much will happen except vs. grunts).So, if you are not planning on casting a bunch of DC spells, forget spell-focus and forget having a super high charisma.&nbsp; It's just not that necessary.Archer bards are pretty common.&nbsp; PBShot, Rapid Shot, Precise Shot at 1/3/6.&nbsp; Then leadership at 9 should work.I am not a big fan of improved initiative for bards.&nbsp; Really, does it matter THAT much if the bard goes first?&nbsp; Very, very rarely.&nbsp; And feats are so hard to come by.It would be fun to play a warrior bard with only enough charisma to cast the base level spells.&nbsp; I.e. start off with Char=11, get a +2 item by the time the bard can cast 2nd level spells, get a +4 item by the time 5th level spells roll around, etc.&nbsp; You lose out some bonus spells for sure, but gain a LOT of extra point-buy uuuuummmmpph.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="two, post: 1651696, member: 9002"] [b]Well, melee or archer or enchanter[/b] What type of bard is this? Melee bard, archer bard, or enchanter bard? Bards don't have a lot of attack spells. They do have a lot of utility/tactical/buff spells. This means that, if you don't have a high charisma, it's ok. You can simply never cast an attack spell (with a DC) in your entire career, and still be a fun capable bard. (or, rather, cast a few attacks spells now and then, but don't think much will happen except vs. grunts). So, if you are not planning on casting a bunch of DC spells, forget spell-focus and forget having a super high charisma. It's just not that necessary. Archer bards are pretty common. PBShot, Rapid Shot, Precise Shot at 1/3/6. Then leadership at 9 should work. I am not a big fan of improved initiative for bards. Really, does it matter THAT much if the bard goes first? Very, very rarely. And feats are so hard to come by. It would be fun to play a warrior bard with only enough charisma to cast the base level spells. I.e. start off with Char=11, get a +2 item by the time the bard can cast 2nd level spells, get a +4 item by the time 5th level spells roll around, etc. You lose out some bonus spells for sure, but gain a LOT of extra point-buy uuuuummmmpph. [/QUOTE]

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