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<blockquote data-quote="Turjan" data-source="post: 1362176" data-attributes="member: 3477"><p>Okay, okay <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />. Let's get most of the historical baggage over board and make some serious cuts. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Let's stay with the languages of the rulers <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />.</p><p></p><p><strong>Swedish</strong> (Sweden, Finland): Struggle for identity under Danish dominance; Union of Kalmar (with Danmark/Norway).</p><p></p><p><strong>Danish</strong> (Denmark, Norway): the Baltic power; Norway part of Denmark and even short sovereignity over Sweden; has to give in to Hanse though..</p><p></p><p><strong>English</strong> (England, Wales, Ireland, Scotland) - Hundred Years' War over France; Scotland sided with France; Peasants' Revolt; Nobles' Revolt; later War of the Roses</p><p></p><p><strong>Dutch</strong> (Holland, Flanders): Flanders one of the richest European countries; Holland and Flanders fall to Burgundy; Dukes of Burgundy (French and German vassals) richest European leaders.</p><p></p><p><strong>German</strong> (Germany, Switzerland, Austria; "lingua franca" in Central, North and East Europe; Baltic countries): Kings elected; Prague first "German" capital; town leagues: Rhine League, Swabian League, <strong>Hanse</strong> (dominated trade in North, Central, East Europe); foundation of Swiss Confederacy; Teutonic Knights rule Baltic states;</p><p></p><p><strong>Yiddish</strong> (Central and Eastern Europe): Jewish language; Jewish merchants have family relations all over Europe.</p><p></p><p><strong>Portuguese</strong> (Portugal): most of 15th century's greatest discoverers hail from here.</p><p></p><p><strong>Spanish</strong> (Castilia, Navarra, Aragon): La Reconquista; most of Spain taken from the Arabs.</p><p></p><p><strong>French</strong> (France, Burgundy, parts of Flanders): Hundred Years' War with England; Flanders lost to Burgundy; Jeanne d'Arc <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />; most populated country in Europe; first national state.</p><p></p><p><strong>Italian</strong> (Italy): Venice and Genoa mightiest trade powers in the Mediterranean (Genoa held even territories in the Russian Krim); Genoa with first bank in Europe; Milan one of the powerful countries under the Visconti; southern Italy changes owners (Aragon, Anjou)</p><p></p><p><strong>Greek</strong> (Greece, Turkey): last struggles of Konstantinopel; Empire of Trapezunt</p><p></p><p><strong>Lithuanian</strong> (Lithuania): foundation of large Lithuanian state against Teutonic Order; most people speak Russian, though; united with Poland (under Polish rule).</p><p></p><p><strong>Polish</strong> (Poland): rise to great power; united with Lithuania and subsequent fight against Teutonic Order</p><p></p><p><strong>Russian</strong> (Novgorod, Moscow, Lithuania): Republic of Novgorod influential country in NW of Russia; trade with Hanse; Moscow on its way to supremacy, but still in the beginnings; fights against Tartars</p><p></p><p><strong>Serbo-Croatian</strong> (Serbia, Hungary): Serb Empire (Serbia, Montenegro, Herzegovina, Albania, Macedonia, Northern Greece, Bulgaria); lost to Ottoman Empire (1396)</p><p></p><p><strong>Hungarian</strong> (Hungary): though one of the more powerful and cultural influential countries, ruled by House Anjou or German kings; fights against Ottomans</p><p></p><p><strong>Turkish</strong> (Turkey, Greece, South East Europe): the Ottomans conquer most of South East Europe; fall of the Latin Empire</p><p></p><p><strong>Arabic</strong> (Spain, North Africa, Levante): Kingdom of Granada in Spain; Marokko independent with Algeria as vassal; Tunis (with western Libya); Mamluk Sultanate (Egypt, Eastern Libya, Palestine, Syria)</p><p></p><p><strong>Mongolian</strong> (only language of rulers): Empire of the Golden Horde (large parts of Russia), Empire of Timur (Mesopotamia, Persia (with Arabic and Iranian languages))</p><p></p><p><strong>Hindi</strong> (Northern India): Sultanate of Delhi; (but there are many other Indian languages)</p><p></p><p>Okay, then let's not forget:</p><p></p><p><strong>Lingua franca</strong> (Mediterranean area): language of traders and christian slaves in islamic countries</p><p></p><p><strong>Latin</strong> (West, North, Central, South West Europe): language of scholars</p><p></p><p>I think that's enough <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />. Now it's time for all Norvegians, Bulgarians, Romanians, etc, to complain <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />!</p><p></p><p>Edit: To stress it again: nearly all of the languages mentioned above are modern day varieties (with a few exceptions). I don't actually think that using genuine medieval languages will add much to the game experience (except lots of headaches <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />). But, in the end, it's each to its own <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Turjan, post: 1362176, member: 3477"] Okay, okay :D. Let's get most of the historical baggage over board and make some serious cuts. :D Let's stay with the languages of the rulers ;). [b]Swedish[/b] (Sweden, Finland): Struggle for identity under Danish dominance; Union of Kalmar (with Danmark/Norway). [b]Danish[/b] (Denmark, Norway): the Baltic power; Norway part of Denmark and even short sovereignity over Sweden; has to give in to Hanse though.. [b]English[/b] (England, Wales, Ireland, Scotland) - Hundred Years' War over France; Scotland sided with France; Peasants' Revolt; Nobles' Revolt; later War of the Roses [b]Dutch[/b] (Holland, Flanders): Flanders one of the richest European countries; Holland and Flanders fall to Burgundy; Dukes of Burgundy (French and German vassals) richest European leaders. [b]German[/b] (Germany, Switzerland, Austria; "lingua franca" in Central, North and East Europe; Baltic countries): Kings elected; Prague first "German" capital; town leagues: Rhine League, Swabian League, [b]Hanse[/b] (dominated trade in North, Central, East Europe); foundation of Swiss Confederacy; Teutonic Knights rule Baltic states; [b]Yiddish[/b] (Central and Eastern Europe): Jewish language; Jewish merchants have family relations all over Europe. [b]Portuguese[/b] (Portugal): most of 15th century's greatest discoverers hail from here. [b]Spanish[/b] (Castilia, Navarra, Aragon): La Reconquista; most of Spain taken from the Arabs. [b]French[/b] (France, Burgundy, parts of Flanders): Hundred Years' War with England; Flanders lost to Burgundy; Jeanne d'Arc :); most populated country in Europe; first national state. [b]Italian[/b] (Italy): Venice and Genoa mightiest trade powers in the Mediterranean (Genoa held even territories in the Russian Krim); Genoa with first bank in Europe; Milan one of the powerful countries under the Visconti; southern Italy changes owners (Aragon, Anjou) [b]Greek[/b] (Greece, Turkey): last struggles of Konstantinopel; Empire of Trapezunt [b]Lithuanian[/b] (Lithuania): foundation of large Lithuanian state against Teutonic Order; most people speak Russian, though; united with Poland (under Polish rule). [b]Polish[/b] (Poland): rise to great power; united with Lithuania and subsequent fight against Teutonic Order [b]Russian[/b] (Novgorod, Moscow, Lithuania): Republic of Novgorod influential country in NW of Russia; trade with Hanse; Moscow on its way to supremacy, but still in the beginnings; fights against Tartars [b]Serbo-Croatian[/b] (Serbia, Hungary): Serb Empire (Serbia, Montenegro, Herzegovina, Albania, Macedonia, Northern Greece, Bulgaria); lost to Ottoman Empire (1396) [b]Hungarian[/b] (Hungary): though one of the more powerful and cultural influential countries, ruled by House Anjou or German kings; fights against Ottomans [b]Turkish[/b] (Turkey, Greece, South East Europe): the Ottomans conquer most of South East Europe; fall of the Latin Empire [b]Arabic[/b] (Spain, North Africa, Levante): Kingdom of Granada in Spain; Marokko independent with Algeria as vassal; Tunis (with western Libya); Mamluk Sultanate (Egypt, Eastern Libya, Palestine, Syria) [b]Mongolian[/b] (only language of rulers): Empire of the Golden Horde (large parts of Russia), Empire of Timur (Mesopotamia, Persia (with Arabic and Iranian languages)) [b]Hindi[/b] (Northern India): Sultanate of Delhi; (but there are many other Indian languages) Okay, then let's not forget: [b]Lingua franca[/b] (Mediterranean area): language of traders and christian slaves in islamic countries [b]Latin[/b] (West, North, Central, South West Europe): language of scholars I think that's enough :D. Now it's time for all Norvegians, Bulgarians, Romanians, etc, to complain :D! Edit: To stress it again: nearly all of the languages mentioned above are modern day varieties (with a few exceptions). I don't actually think that using genuine medieval languages will add much to the game experience (except lots of headaches ;)). But, in the end, it's each to its own :). [/QUOTE]
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