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<blockquote data-quote="Fenes 2" data-source="post: 1030965" data-attributes="member: 6166">I too believe the Realms can be grim without too much altering. Just tone down the goodness among the leaders of the &quot;good states&quot;, and replace it with more pragmatism, egoism and politics. When most of the leaders think of themselves/their country/their organisation first and of &quot;Goodness&quot; second things are much less &quot;fluffy&quot;. Add a couple of &quot;evil&quot; organisations out for themselves, not out to &quot;do evil&quot;, which do not suffer too much from terminal infighting and have leaders and masterminds that are smarter than the average teenager (and do not excuse sloppy setbacks as a means to &quot;weed out the weak&quot; instead focusing on getting the job done) and things are looking grim indeed.The Red Wizards are, imho, one of the best examples of capable evil in the FRCS. No more big, stupid plans and blundering, but honeyed words, smiles, and big magic carrots to bribe, corrupt and blackmail their way into influence over msot of Faerun.Many other organisations from the &quot;Lords of Darkness&quot; Sourcebook are also a great help in making Faerun a place more grim and gritty. You can have the whole place crawling with secret agendas and backstabbing from that book alone.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fenes 2, post: 1030965, member: 6166"] I too believe the Realms can be grim without too much altering. Just tone down the goodness among the leaders of the "good states", and replace it with more pragmatism, egoism and politics. When most of the leaders think of themselves/their country/their organisation first and of "Goodness" second things are much less "fluffy". Add a couple of "evil" organisations out for themselves, not out to "do evil", which do not suffer too much from terminal infighting and have leaders and masterminds that are smarter than the average teenager (and do not excuse sloppy setbacks as a means to "weed out the weak" instead focusing on getting the job done) and things are looking grim indeed. The Red Wizards are, imho, one of the best examples of capable evil in the FRCS. No more big, stupid plans and blundering, but honeyed words, smiles, and big magic carrots to bribe, corrupt and blackmail their way into influence over msot of Faerun. Many other organisations from the "Lords of Darkness" Sourcebook are also a great help in making Faerun a place more grim and gritty. You can have the whole place crawling with secret agendas and backstabbing from that book alone. [/QUOTE]

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