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<blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 4607116" data-attributes="member: 3192"><p>I'm not badmouthing WotC. But they don't get to redefine a word at their leisure either. In truth, you won't find contradictory evidence that isn't capable of being proven false. That's my point.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for bringing us back on topic. </p><p></p><p>To OP:</p><p> I suggest you work this out beforehand as a group. However, if your players do not wish to do this (and by your descriptions at least some do not), then I would not try and force them during play. Talk about what you want outside of the game and understand none are beholden to anyone else at the table. This is outside the scope of roleplaying is all I was saying.</p><p></p><p>Reading my quote back I don't see how I was belittling him. That was certainly not my intention at all.</p><p></p><p>When you say roleplaying gaming you exclusively mean games with fictional roles. Pretending to be a different person while acting out these fictional roles is extraordinarily common in fictional roleplaying games. But, contrary to popular opinion, you do not have to pretend to be a fictional character to play a fictional role. Nor is not playing a fictional character somehow "not roleplaying". Folks who say this are confused as to how roleplaying and theatrical acting are different. </p><p></p><p>The definition of roleplaying as playing a social role covers all version of D&D and probably 99% of all RPGs published or played. It is not exclusive to the social sciences. Using language accurately in a niche hobby that doesn't know itself isn't being a grammatical prescriptivist. I am repeating what was forgotten about 15-20 years ago or so. I believe the current onfusion in the field may partially be why White Wolf chose to call their games Storygames instead of RPGs as they knew enough about what roleplaying is to understand they were making rules for acting in character as well as playing roles.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="howandwhy99, post: 4607116, member: 3192"] I'm not badmouthing WotC. But they don't get to redefine a word at their leisure either. In truth, you won't find contradictory evidence that isn't capable of being proven false. That's my point. Thanks for bringing us back on topic. To OP: I suggest you work this out beforehand as a group. However, if your players do not wish to do this (and by your descriptions at least some do not), then I would not try and force them during play. Talk about what you want outside of the game and understand none are beholden to anyone else at the table. This is outside the scope of roleplaying is all I was saying. Reading my quote back I don't see how I was belittling him. That was certainly not my intention at all. When you say roleplaying gaming you exclusively mean games with fictional roles. Pretending to be a different person while acting out these fictional roles is extraordinarily common in fictional roleplaying games. But, contrary to popular opinion, you do not have to pretend to be a fictional character to play a fictional role. Nor is not playing a fictional character somehow "not roleplaying". Folks who say this are confused as to how roleplaying and theatrical acting are different. The definition of roleplaying as playing a social role covers all version of D&D and probably 99% of all RPGs published or played. It is not exclusive to the social sciences. Using language accurately in a niche hobby that doesn't know itself isn't being a grammatical prescriptivist. I am repeating what was forgotten about 15-20 years ago or so. I believe the current onfusion in the field may partially be why White Wolf chose to call their games Storygames instead of RPGs as they knew enough about what roleplaying is to understand they were making rules for acting in character as well as playing roles. [/QUOTE]
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