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<blockquote data-quote="Infinite_Kydeem" data-source="post: 3091853" data-attributes="member: 45498">I guess we didn't see it as the same case as enlarge person. It doesn't change back as it leaves, it changes back on impact. So it would be flying through the air at least somewhere in the ballpark of the same speed as a colossal crossbow firing a colossal bolt. {I don't know if projectile velocity should go up or down when the crossbow is a larger size. Any hunting enthusiats out there that might know?}The wizard is not in the group. Group travels long distances often. In this case hunting a specific dragon that took them just over a week to even get into the dragon's territory. Then they would still have to locate it. {Actually they got a lucky guess and found the lair entrance in one day even though well hidden.}I think that's where the kernal of the concept came from.If he can't recover them, that's what he'll probably do in the future.If you're going to try using conservation of momentum (which is what it sounds like you're saying). Then it is perfectly legite to say you should use conservation of energy also. And you can't do both with something that instantly changes mass on impact. Well - I suppose - technically - you could, if you say the person shooting the crossbow suddenly flies backward when the bolt hits. But while ammusing,&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />&nbsp; that doesn't seem very fair to the shooter. Besides there are a huge number of spells that would have to be reworked if we're going to try and impose physics on magic.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Infinite_Kydeem, post: 3091853, member: 45498"] I guess we didn't see it as the same case as enlarge person. It doesn't change back as it leaves, it changes back on impact. So it would be flying through the air at least somewhere in the ballpark of the same speed as a colossal crossbow firing a colossal bolt. {I don't know if projectile velocity should go up or down when the crossbow is a larger size. Any hunting enthusiats out there that might know?} The wizard is not in the group. Group travels long distances often. In this case hunting a specific dragon that took them just over a week to even get into the dragon's territory. Then they would still have to locate it. {Actually they got a lucky guess and found the lair entrance in one day even though well hidden.} I think that's where the kernal of the concept came from. If he can't recover them, that's what he'll probably do in the future. If you're going to try using conservation of momentum (which is what it sounds like you're saying). Then it is perfectly legite to say you should use conservation of energy also. And you can't do both with something that instantly changes mass on impact. Well - I suppose - technically - you could, if you say the person shooting the crossbow suddenly flies backward when the bolt hits. But while ammusing, :lol: that doesn't seem very fair to the shooter. Besides there are a huge number of spells that would have to be reworked if we're going to try and impose physics on magic. [/QUOTE]

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