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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8701086" data-attributes="member: 16814">Okay, well, then, everything that the GM does is then a move.&nbsp; That doesn't seem to be useful.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm not sure there's much more use in this discussion, if this is where we are.Appeals to authority are not a way to elevate the utility.EDIT: Let me expand this.&nbsp; I was having a disagreement with AZ.&nbsp; You entered the discussion, with a clear self identification as someone that has no experience with PbtA games, but has read them.&nbsp; This is fine.&nbsp; You then cite AZ as an authoritative source as you make arguments that are, largely, based on what AZ says.&nbsp; You then say that AZ had good utility to the discussion because he has much experience.&nbsp; We have no information about that experience, and even if so, that doesn't resolve that he's a useful source, especially when you're citing him specifically on the topic that where there was a disagreement.Logically, this is non-useful and doesn't move any needles at all.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8701086, member: 16814"] Okay, well, then, everything that the GM does is then a move. That doesn't seem to be useful. I'm not sure there's much more use in this discussion, if this is where we are. Appeals to authority are not a way to elevate the utility. EDIT: Let me expand this. I was having a disagreement with AZ. You entered the discussion, with a clear self identification as someone that has no experience with PbtA games, but has read them. This is fine. You then cite AZ as an authoritative source as you make arguments that are, largely, based on what AZ says. You then say that AZ had good utility to the discussion because he has much experience. We have no information about that experience, and even if so, that doesn't resolve that he's a useful source, especially when you're citing him specifically on the topic that where there was a disagreement. Logically, this is non-useful and doesn't move any needles at all. [/QUOTE]

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