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<blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 1948479" data-attributes="member: 467"><p>Some more background:</p><p></p><p>In addition to the Big Crowns, they happened to find one that predated them and was less powerful. This one made the wearer (who must have giant blood) The Giant King of the North. One of the PCs is a half giant psionicist. What they did not know was that the Dragons themselves stole the method of making crowns and made the Giant Crowns. The Giant Kings were thrown down, and the race based Regents were put in there place. What they also don't know is that "The Adversary" made the Big Crowns in the first place to corrupt the races into choas and war and death. (NOTE: the Regents who wore the crowns were killed by a good guy consipracy and the crowns were hidden. The dragons don't like those crowns because they are capable of controlling or killing dragons, because the Adversary knew that dragons were the only things in the world powerful enough to undo his rule. And finally, the Creator made Warforged -- from Eberron -- to serve as his minions on earth -- they are actually angels in haiting alchemechanical bodies -- but they have long since been margialized by first the Giants, who ruled for 5000 years, and then the corrupted racial rulers).</p><p></p><p>Anyway, the PCs' master and another dragon cut a deal -- the master gives the other dragon the Giant Crown (dragons can completely control the wearer) for the Dwarf Crown, which the other dragon managed to take from the PCs in the first place -- and they took a swipe at him in the process, unprovoked and unnecessary. Of course, the master doesn't tell them this when he sends them to make the trade, but the wearer of the Giant Crown guesses it. Long story short, they screw the other dragon and their master and are on the lam.</p><p></p><p>Because their master knows them so well and they still carry gear tget got from him, he can scry on them and locate them at any time. because the other dragon possessed the giant crown for a short time, he can do the same. A third dragon, a gold, has also come into contact with the PCs and is a major rival of their red wyrm former master. While he might try and get them to join him, he has plenty of minions of his own looking for the remaining crowns. Note that the gold is not a good guy and wants the crowns as much as the others. Note also that the dragons want the crowns out of pure self preservation. As long as the crowns are out there, some mortal can say "Die" and a dragon does.</p><p></p><p>I tend to run games loose, and react to the PCs. But here, I need a plan so that the PCs know they screwed up big time. What I really want is some stuff that the PCs won't see coming. They are pretty tough (11th level, with lots of hand picked equipment based on their relationship with the red wyrm) but there has to be a way to scare them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Reynard, post: 1948479, member: 467"] Some more background: In addition to the Big Crowns, they happened to find one that predated them and was less powerful. This one made the wearer (who must have giant blood) The Giant King of the North. One of the PCs is a half giant psionicist. What they did not know was that the Dragons themselves stole the method of making crowns and made the Giant Crowns. The Giant Kings were thrown down, and the race based Regents were put in there place. What they also don't know is that "The Adversary" made the Big Crowns in the first place to corrupt the races into choas and war and death. (NOTE: the Regents who wore the crowns were killed by a good guy consipracy and the crowns were hidden. The dragons don't like those crowns because they are capable of controlling or killing dragons, because the Adversary knew that dragons were the only things in the world powerful enough to undo his rule. And finally, the Creator made Warforged -- from Eberron -- to serve as his minions on earth -- they are actually angels in haiting alchemechanical bodies -- but they have long since been margialized by first the Giants, who ruled for 5000 years, and then the corrupted racial rulers). Anyway, the PCs' master and another dragon cut a deal -- the master gives the other dragon the Giant Crown (dragons can completely control the wearer) for the Dwarf Crown, which the other dragon managed to take from the PCs in the first place -- and they took a swipe at him in the process, unprovoked and unnecessary. Of course, the master doesn't tell them this when he sends them to make the trade, but the wearer of the Giant Crown guesses it. Long story short, they screw the other dragon and their master and are on the lam. Because their master knows them so well and they still carry gear tget got from him, he can scry on them and locate them at any time. because the other dragon possessed the giant crown for a short time, he can do the same. A third dragon, a gold, has also come into contact with the PCs and is a major rival of their red wyrm former master. While he might try and get them to join him, he has plenty of minions of his own looking for the remaining crowns. Note that the gold is not a good guy and wants the crowns as much as the others. Note also that the dragons want the crowns out of pure self preservation. As long as the crowns are out there, some mortal can say "Die" and a dragon does. I tend to run games loose, and react to the PCs. But here, I need a plan so that the PCs know they screwed up big time. What I really want is some stuff that the PCs won't see coming. They are pretty tough (11th level, with lots of hand picked equipment based on their relationship with the red wyrm) but there has to be a way to scare them. [/QUOTE]
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