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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Navar" data-source="post: 2090380" data-attributes="member: 2313">There are several ways to prevent the PCs from getting that eq.  If I forgot to put it in (I did a lot yesterday)  then make all of the weapons Negativally charged (so good characters gain negative levels from touching them)  Remember in my post I even mentioned using this as grapple defence.  The PCs are smart, they are linked by a telepathic bond (that we really arn't sure how it works, we just know we can't get rid of it.)  So all of the ideas that Jhartaine uses are voided.  Also smart PCs use things like True Seeing and Invisibulity purge very well BECAUSE they are imporntant.  "TRICKS" with invisibulity and illusions are great for the local high school troupe, but when you are DMing for an experienced group of high level characters they already know all of these tricks themselves.  You arn't going to fool any of them like this.  Morrus came in and said that he liked the way the Black Slaad were shaping up.  I am sure he will like the Soulknives because they are unexpected AND good.  @Arkhandus Those builds you show are great IF the Psionic Warriors are going to be level 16+, but at the target level (11) the soulknives are MUCH better than the examples in that page.  I think I COULD build a better psionic warrior, BUT as stated the soulknives offer something differant.  They are unexpected and that MIGHT get the PCs off balance enough to scare them.  Remember he wants this to be a scary fight more than a deadly fight.Much like in the game I was in on saturaday 14 hobgoblins v. 6 level 4 PCs.  We though we were screwed.  I play a Warlock with 18 hps.  They were throwing 4 were drawing javalins and charging into combat with short swords.  2 had short bows and short swords.  4 had long swords, and 4 had battle axes.  We ALL thought it was flee time (and then I am wearing medium armor so I was one of the slowest.)  We were all worried that we might not make it out of the fight alive.  UNTIL the sorcerer cast her 1 second level spell.  Pyrotechnics won the battle for us.  We all made our saves, except for the Fighter with blind fight.  And all but 2 hobgoblins failed.  It was short work after that cleaning up.  So PC actions can swing a battle VERY quickly.  In a situation like the one you describe 1 invusibluity purge ruins all your plans.</blockquote>

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