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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 2091170" data-attributes="member: 29014">Well, the main problem is that the players are not going to be so kind as to not try to kill your NPCs in the first few rounds.  That said, Decerebrate, which was mentioned above, makes the character effectively brain-dead without killing them, and there are several other powers that effectively kill the character while leaving them alive (Microcosm for instance).  Alternatively, if you had an arcane caster, the overpowered Forcecage can stop anything that can't teleport or disintegrate without a save or SR check or anything, but it doesn't kill them, just puts them in a cage (really, you should actually be quite worried about them using this against you), and Mazing someone after dealing them Intelligence damage with the Soulknives until they had under 10 Int would keep them out for even longer.  The main problem is that the set of characters presented (psion Queen, fighter King, burly Slaad, Greatsword-wielding gith) don't have many neutralise options avaliable that are likely to succeed, except maybe the Queen (now, there are plenty you could try that would fail, of course).  If you had an arcane caster, there would be more possibilities, but the problem is that non-lethal methods to eliminate enemies are the ones to which your PCs are most likely to be immune.  The other problem is that the cleric can probably remove any neutralising effect unless he is eliminated quickly.      My best suggestion is to use Nonlethal Substitution on a giant blast spell as outlined above, so that they don't die, but are merely knocked out.Alternatively, try to do something roleplaying-related between the slaad and the gith.  Perhaps the PCs are able to turn the two sides against each other?  This would reward interaction, and then you've given the NPCs more targets (so for instance, if the Lich Queen then slaughtered the cleric, diviner, and Slaad King with Energy Missiles, there would be plenty of PCs still alive, and some slaad left to engage the gith).If you just fight them with suboptimal choices (things they are immune / will definitely save), they will probably wipe the floor with these guys like they did the handmaid.</blockquote>

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