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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Torm" data-source="post: 2187525" data-attributes="member: 12706">Speaking of placebos, a laboratory recently released a study that I just flat cannot figure out. They took a number of test subjects in pain and gave them morphine daily for a set number of days. After that, they took part of them (leaving a control group, of course) and started giving them a nonreactive placebo instead, without telling them. Another period of time passes. Then, without telling them, they began giving a set number of subjects from both groups (leaving, once again, control groups for both sets) a chemical inhibitor that blocks the specific chemical receptors that allow morphine to work, mixed in to whatever they were getting before. The subjects from both groups given the inhibitor stopped experiencing any painkilling effect! The inhibitor blocked a placebo that theoretically only works through a psychological effect.... I don't get it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> No offense, but I think part of the problem in your and Shemeska's conversation with Eolin (and with me, earlier in the thread, for that matter - but I don't really care enough to get upset about it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ) is the condescension. Assume for a moment (and I know you are <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> ) that you are completely right in all of your assertions - in convincing others of this, you can still catch more flies with honey than vinegar. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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