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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 2191739" data-attributes="member: 9037">I have been following this debate with great intrest. It reminds me of the debates I have had woth family and friends and my doctor several years ago when I first went on Atkins before the low carb craze hit. Everyone kept telling me it would hurt my heart well my cholesrtral levels went down, my insulin levels stablized and I took less diabetic medicine and my kidneys are fine. When I argued this point I was told it was not scientfic but subjective.Now all these scientfic studies are coming out showing that if your kidneys are normal a low carb diet does not hurt them insluin does play a big part in weight gain and not all fat is bad for you. Just because a scientfic study has not been done on something does not make it hookum. So saying show me a scientfic study and then I will believe it is showing a closed mind. Using the Atkins as examle again he used some studies out Switzerland based on insluin and heart disease and his own finding to develop the diet. None of the naysayers ever did any study to back up their claims. It has only been in the last three years that a real effort has been made to study the effects of the diet.    I am not trying to hijack the thread into a debate on low carb diets I was just using it as an example because it is an example that I am aware of.</blockquote>