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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 932751" data-attributes="member: 141"><p>Rogue 3/Fighter 2/Barbarian 2 is a very useful prefix for this kind of build. </p><p></p><p>Here's why: Because of the way uncanny dodge stacks, a rogue 3/barbarian 2 has the uncanny dodge ability of a barbarian 5- that is, it cannot be flanked. Also you only lose 1 point of BAB this way, as opposed to the two points you lose with 5 or more levels of rogue. The boost in base speed helps substantially when spring attacking. An even split between these three classes means that there is no xp penalty, no matter what race you choose.</p><p></p><p>Dipping into a level of gladiator gives the ability to bluff as a move equivalent action at very little cost, and ties in well with a duelist concept. You are dueling in front of an audience, is all. Plus the "dirty tricks" mentioned in the improved feint description fit your character.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure if the Defensive Strike feat is available to you; it is OA, but it may be in one of the FR supplements as well (I don't own silver marches or unapproachable east). Basically you take the full-defense action, and if your opponent misses you, you get a +4 on your next attack against him. Good synergy with expertise and the study opponent gladiator ability.</p><p></p><p>Even if you decide to avoid the gladiator and go straight into duelist, I would recommend the rogue 3/fighter 2/barbarian 2 prefix. You can shift the order of classes around, of course.</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't worry about whirlwind attack; how often do you intend to be surrounded by a gang of your opponents? Much better just to spring into position.</p><p></p><p>Good luck!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 932751, member: 141"] Rogue 3/Fighter 2/Barbarian 2 is a very useful prefix for this kind of build. Here's why: Because of the way uncanny dodge stacks, a rogue 3/barbarian 2 has the uncanny dodge ability of a barbarian 5- that is, it cannot be flanked. Also you only lose 1 point of BAB this way, as opposed to the two points you lose with 5 or more levels of rogue. The boost in base speed helps substantially when spring attacking. An even split between these three classes means that there is no xp penalty, no matter what race you choose. Dipping into a level of gladiator gives the ability to bluff as a move equivalent action at very little cost, and ties in well with a duelist concept. You are dueling in front of an audience, is all. Plus the "dirty tricks" mentioned in the improved feint description fit your character. I'm not sure if the Defensive Strike feat is available to you; it is OA, but it may be in one of the FR supplements as well (I don't own silver marches or unapproachable east). Basically you take the full-defense action, and if your opponent misses you, you get a +4 on your next attack against him. Good synergy with expertise and the study opponent gladiator ability. Even if you decide to avoid the gladiator and go straight into duelist, I would recommend the rogue 3/fighter 2/barbarian 2 prefix. You can shift the order of classes around, of course. I wouldn't worry about whirlwind attack; how often do you intend to be surrounded by a gang of your opponents? Much better just to spring into position. Good luck! [/QUOTE]
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