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Help me nail down this 'take 10, take 20' nonsense
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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 1832639" data-attributes="member: 23094"><p>Next question =</p><p></p><p></p><p>Depends.</p><p></p><p>You could take 20 to pick the lock (which would take another two minutes to do), assuming you were able to pick the lock on a roll of 20. [EDIT: And assuming the lock was on *this* side of the door! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> [/EDIT]</p><p></p><p>You could take 20 on the Strength check to batter it down. To batter down a standard wooden door (like on most houses) is a DC 13 check - so someone with a Strength of 16 or better could Take 10 and succeed. A strong wooden door - like, say, on an office building - has a break DC of 23, so you'd need to spend two minutes pounding away on it to break it.</p><p></p><p>Alternatively, you could probably hack it apart with your axe - Hardness 5, 20 HP - in a couple of rounds.</p><p></p><p>An Iron Door has a break DC of 28 - so no one with a Strength score less than 26 can break it down, even when taking 20.</p><p></p><p>[Edit: Stone doors fall in between wooden doors and iron doors in terms of how hard they are to break apart.]</p><p></p><p>Taking 20 on a further Search check might let you find the lever - if you're searching the right area. If the lever isn't in the same square as the door, then no amount of prodding, poking, etc., will allow you to find it - you'll have to search elsewhere.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 1832639, member: 23094"] Next question = Depends. You could take 20 to pick the lock (which would take another two minutes to do), assuming you were able to pick the lock on a roll of 20. [EDIT: And assuming the lock was on *this* side of the door! ;) [/EDIT] You could take 20 on the Strength check to batter it down. To batter down a standard wooden door (like on most houses) is a DC 13 check - so someone with a Strength of 16 or better could Take 10 and succeed. A strong wooden door - like, say, on an office building - has a break DC of 23, so you'd need to spend two minutes pounding away on it to break it. Alternatively, you could probably hack it apart with your axe - Hardness 5, 20 HP - in a couple of rounds. An Iron Door has a break DC of 28 - so no one with a Strength score less than 26 can break it down, even when taking 20. [Edit: Stone doors fall in between wooden doors and iron doors in terms of how hard they are to break apart.] Taking 20 on a further Search check might let you find the lever - if you're searching the right area. If the lever isn't in the same square as the door, then no amount of prodding, poking, etc., will allow you to find it - you'll have to search elsewhere. [/QUOTE]
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