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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5250293" data-attributes="member: 35909">Yeah, I don't want it to be like 4E, where there's a very narrowly defined "range" (by that I mean like how 4E was actually designed for expected attack and defense values at a give level so that they'd have X% chance to hit).I'm just saying, some sort of hard limits would be nice.  It seems sometimes like a monster's HD is completely detached from his attributes.  I don't mind ranges depending on the nature of the creature, but there should be some guidelines.  If you want a creature with +15 natural armor, say...it can't have only 6 HD.  Depending on if it's built like a Rhino or a Vulture it might need a significantly different amount of HD to "qualify" for that much natural armor, but there would still be some sort of system.Don't know if that explained things any better.</blockquote>