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<blockquote data-quote="faria" data-source="post: 6857423" data-attributes="member: 6780042">Oh my god, I didn't even notice there were Giant Frogs AND Giant Toads!!!Giant Toads are Large size, so a Medium size race can ride them! They are a bit stronger too. Hmmm.I still think Beastmaster would come out on top, because they can add their Proficiency bonus (minimum of +2) to Frog attacks, both to hit and to damage. Then again, Bard gets to give their pet Bardic Inspiration, which probably matches the Beastmaster's bonus...Let's flesh out those 2 options and see which is better:(1) Forest Gnome Beastmaster 3/Wizard 3 with a Giant Frog (Finish Beastmaster 17/Wizard 3)Spells: Enlarge/Reduce0 ASIs but can get 2 in the next 2 levels. Honestly though, I'd keep Wizard at 3 to allow Beastmaster 17 for 5th level spells like Conjure Volley or Swift Quiver. Take Mounted Combatant next level and consider Inspiring Leader at Beastmaster 8.(2) Variant Human Lore Bard 6 with a Giant ToadSpells: Find Steed, Enlarge/Reduce2 ASIs - Mounted Combatant, Inspiring LeaderLooks like Bard comes out ahead in the beginning but falls behind by the end. Also, Bard has to wait until 6. Beastmaster gets Bestial Fury at 11 too, so it come do the 1-round Swallow without Haste...I gotta drive home. I'll edit this later and flesh these out more.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="faria, post: 6857423, member: 6780042"] Oh my god, I didn't even notice there were Giant Frogs AND Giant Toads!!! Giant Toads are Large size, so a Medium size race can ride them! They are a bit stronger too. Hmmm. I still think Beastmaster would come out on top, because they can add their Proficiency bonus (minimum of +2) to Frog attacks, both to hit and to damage. Then again, Bard gets to give their pet Bardic Inspiration, which probably matches the Beastmaster's bonus... Let's flesh out those 2 options and see which is better: (1) Forest Gnome Beastmaster 3/Wizard 3 with a Giant Frog (Finish Beastmaster 17/Wizard 3) Spells: Enlarge/Reduce 0 ASIs but can get 2 in the next 2 levels. Honestly though, I'd keep Wizard at 3 to allow Beastmaster 17 for 5th level spells like Conjure Volley or Swift Quiver. Take Mounted Combatant next level and consider Inspiring Leader at Beastmaster 8. (2) Variant Human Lore Bard 6 with a Giant Toad Spells: Find Steed, Enlarge/Reduce 2 ASIs - Mounted Combatant, Inspiring Leader Looks like Bard comes out ahead in the beginning but falls behind by the end. Also, Bard has to wait until 6. Beastmaster gets Bestial Fury at 11 too, so it come do the 1-round Swallow without Haste... I gotta drive home. I'll edit this later and flesh these out more. [/QUOTE]

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