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Message: <blockquote data-quote="small pumpkin man" data-source="post: 4145947" data-attributes="member: 57910">Do you actually read the information available when you go off on these rants? 4e scales much slower than 3.x and numbers make more difference, if you read the playtest reports, PCs regularly beat up higher level creatures and almost as regularly are TPKd by overwhelming numbers, both of which imply that those first level Guards (which seem much tougher than 1st level wariors thank you very much) are actually going to be able to take on most of the creatures around, if necessary, because if it's not, they're not going to like the fact that half of them are going to die, aren't they? But they can deal with tough enough monsters that even younger Dragons aren't going to want to attack well defended villages.PoL works exactly like the Dark ages or many bronze age civilizations. Please explain to me how all of the humans in Europe were killed during the Dark ages by Bears, Wolves, Lions and raiders, and the majority of the posters on this board are a simulation run by a computer to see what modern "Europeans" would be like.I'm disapointed that this is all you got out of all of the cool ideas in this thread.(btw, no-one's mentioned them having tamed monsters themselves yet) Large scale genocide with medieval tech takes a long time, and in the base PoL, this appears to be happening. The Teifling Empire has crumbled, the human Kingdoms are falling, the things which go bump in the night are pushing the civilzed races into smaller and smaller territories, can YOU make a difference before it's too late?Must they? Why? The 4e motto is "Yes you can" so if you want to kill them, yes you can, if you want to talk them out of it and start up trade, yes you can, I fail to see where it's been suggested otherwise.You're a hero what do you think a hero would do?Ogres are too Dumb, Gnolls are predators, Kobolds are too crap. Orcs and Goblinoids do have their own cultures in many settings, homebrew and otherwise. This is no different in 4e, in fact the "humanization" of Goblinoids and Orcs is very much a recent thing and many FR fans are up in arms about it being pushed in 4e FR. Again, you are making accusations based on FUD, it's not overly helpful.</blockquote>

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