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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Storme" data-source="post: 3910896" data-attributes="member: 56172">They do have souls.  Tormented ones...it's what gives their dead bodies life.  That's why an undead person can't be resurrected until they are destroyed.Anyway...I have another strategy for you, FoxWander.  This is a good one, but you'd have to work for it.Either find (hard) or use wish (easy) and wish for...say...four eyelashes from an Ethereal Doppleganger and cast simulacrum (MMII pg 94).  It's a 20hd monster so it'll end up 10 HD, but it will have ALL it's abilities, and none of them are level specific.  Have the Ethereal Doppleganger imitate...say...your wife or yourself.  It takes an hour and a willing target does not have to make a save.  Now that he's got ALL of hers or yours abilites and stats (except HP plus his DR, SR, and fasthealing8), use polymorph any object on him and make him into mosquito (the most stealthful beings in the universe).  Now he stays in your pocket as a mosquito with all the powers of your wife's character (or yours).Okay...now's the tricky part.You will need for the Ethereal Doppleganger of your wife's character mosquito to make physical contact with him for an hour.  That could be done during watches while he's meditating for his spells.  While the guy's preoccupied, have the mosquito (cast invis and something to buff his move silently...your artificer can do that (+15) if you have her yet...either that or have the EDoppleganger immitate a high level rogue.  Whatever.  Have him land on his back between his shoulder blades (D&D never requires TOUCH to be skin to skin) and have him sit there for an hour.  When the hour is up, the uber mosquito flies off and back into your pocket.  You're ready.Get alone with him somehow, somewhere (away from his cohort and undead).  Then come up with something like this."Dude, we need to divide this money I got from selling a scroll.  Then hand a money pouch to your wife's character full of gold, and hand a pouch full of gold to him (WITH A TRAP THE SOUL ON IT...NO SAVE...NO SR). NOW...you'll need to communicate with your DM on this before you do the trap the soul, and hopefully he will cooperate.  He doesn't really need to (you can tell him), but it would be better if he did.  Dispel the Polymorphed Mosquito, and have the EDoppleganger TURN INTO THE EVIL CHARACTER.  What's beautiful about this is...if the DM cooperates, he can just have the guy play the EDoppleganger, never aware that his character has been switched.  Then just play the rest of the scenaro, mindful that YOU will have to keep track of the guys damage (even though the player might think HE is) since the EDoppleganger has lower HP than the original BUT has fasthealing8.  Just play along with anything the guy does.  THEN when he tries to turn on YOU, you and the DM then informs him that he's been a doppleganger all along!If the DM doesn't cooperate, then offer to let the Evil Character play the EDoppleganger, fully aware of what it is, understanding that he is 100% under your control.Either way...problem solved, in a very unique and hopefully, non-confrontational way.This has happened to me (sort of) before.  My character had been switched by a doppleganger and I was unaware of it.  I played my character normally until we reached the final room with the badguy and on the second round, the DM took control of me and started attacking the group!  It was such a shock to everyone that it really was quite fun.Storme</blockquote>

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