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Message: <blockquote data-quote="green slime" data-source="post: 1068419" data-attributes="member: 1325">Hi there jaults,My error. In my haste to post a reply, I was looking in the incorrect version of the srd: the original 3.5 complete download was actually still the 3.0 rules. So therefore my reference to expeditious retreat.Secondly I note that 1 (caster level) * 1 (long strider spell) * 2,000 gp *1,5 = 3,000 gp and not 3,500 gp.I apologise for my outburst about munchkin gamers, I have to deal with one "in-house", on a weekly basis. It was with thought of this fellow in mind that I posted my comment. It was out of place.I guess 3.5e and I do not agree on the relative value of tactical movement. I feel that expeditious retreat is one of those spells that need to be treated carefully, when putting its power in an item. As 3.5 guidelines would have it, continuous slippers of exped retreat would cost a mere (1*1*2,000 gp * 2 (minutes per level lasting all day) = 4,000 gp. Is this reasonable, given 3.5 BoS&S? Which would you rather have: a) +10 to speed and +5 to Jump skill,b) +30 to speed and 1,500 gp?Not too difficult a choice, IMO. Especially as the extra +20 speed affects your jumping distance...to the tune of +12.This implies that, when compared to similar items already existing in the DMG, that the price may be a tad low for items utilizing expeditious retreat. This could be the reason why there are no any such items any longer in that tome.No it wouldn't change my position. As a DM, if I let you create it for a certain price, I have to be able to motivate the same price for the other players, whether or not they were actually interested in something like this, or risk getting jumped on for favouritism. Not that it is likely, but I prefer to avoid even providing excuses for insinuations. So, my feeling was, it would enable a player to shore up weak defenses too cheaply. 500 gp is still pretty cheap... but reasonable.</blockquote>

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