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<blockquote data-quote="WayneLigon" data-source="post: 1787097" data-attributes="member: 3649"><p>Yeah, that is a problem. St Louis was once the top contender but it's on the wrong side of the Mississippi. I hate laying down a law then making an exception to it; you get Star Trek instead of Buffy by going down that path. BUT since we don't know the exact reasonings behind the how and why of the Black Lodge's failure, there is some wiggle room here. </p><p> </p><p>See, again I got whacked by my general ignorance until I did some research on the arch. I thought it had been built quite some time ago (as in, 1920's), but it was put up from '61 to '66. I had no idea it was that recent. Now, the mystical association of the Arch with the expansion of the America westward would have been enough to create a 'bubble' when the Dead Zone was first formed. This goes back to some of my earlier ideas about sacred architecture. </p><p> </p><p>It's too late for the Arch, though it's NOT too late for some other things that work almost as good. </p><p> </p><p>This is the place where the Mississippi and Missouri meet; since water stops the barrier in two places, the extra association here could create a 'bubble'. </p><p> </p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">St. Louis is home to the oldest Catholic Church west of the Mississippi, the Basilica of St. Louis.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Shrine of St. Joseph is reportedly the site of a genuine miracle in 1866</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Old Water Tower (again the association with the taming of waters) erected in 1871 is the largest perfect Corinthian column in existance. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The water works plant has a large statue in front of it symbolizing the Union of the Waters, the Mississippi and Missouri.</li> </ul><p>There is a massive fountain called Meeting of the Waters (the name was suppossed to be Wedding of the Rivers), featuring statues representing the Mississippi and Missouri, plus a whole lot of water spirits. This was - unfortunately for my purposes - built in the 1940s but it could have been initiated by someone who suspected the relationship and created it as a 'buffer' in case the water towers were ever razed. </p><p> </p><p>You also have pink nuns but that's neither here not there. </p><p> </p><p>Sooooo, there's enough (especially water-related) stuff there to create a large bubble in the fabric of the Dead Zone if I wish to go that route. I could make St. Louis a Chicago-sized metropolis, the literal gateway to the west (esp if I push the DZ year to 1874 to make St. Louis the only endpoint to the only cross country railroad) and a major center of thaumaturgical study. </p><p> </p><p>Still thinking about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WayneLigon, post: 1787097, member: 3649"] Yeah, that is a problem. St Louis was once the top contender but it's on the wrong side of the Mississippi. I hate laying down a law then making an exception to it; you get Star Trek instead of Buffy by going down that path. BUT since we don't know the exact reasonings behind the how and why of the Black Lodge's failure, there is some wiggle room here. See, again I got whacked by my general ignorance until I did some research on the arch. I thought it had been built quite some time ago (as in, 1920's), but it was put up from '61 to '66. I had no idea it was that recent. Now, the mystical association of the Arch with the expansion of the America westward would have been enough to create a 'bubble' when the Dead Zone was first formed. This goes back to some of my earlier ideas about sacred architecture. It's too late for the Arch, though it's NOT too late for some other things that work almost as good. This is the place where the Mississippi and Missouri meet; since water stops the barrier in two places, the extra association here could create a 'bubble'. [list] [*]St. Louis is home to the oldest Catholic Church west of the Mississippi, the Basilica of St. Louis. [*]The Shrine of St. Joseph is reportedly the site of a genuine miracle in 1866 [*]The Old Water Tower (again the association with the taming of waters) erected in 1871 is the largest perfect Corinthian column in existance. [*]The water works plant has a large statue in front of it symbolizing the Union of the Waters, the Mississippi and Missouri. [/list] There is a massive fountain called Meeting of the Waters (the name was suppossed to be Wedding of the Rivers), featuring statues representing the Mississippi and Missouri, plus a whole lot of water spirits. This was - unfortunately for my purposes - built in the 1940s but it could have been initiated by someone who suspected the relationship and created it as a 'buffer' in case the water towers were ever razed. You also have pink nuns but that's neither here not there. Sooooo, there's enough (especially water-related) stuff there to create a large bubble in the fabric of the Dead Zone if I wish to go that route. I could make St. Louis a Chicago-sized metropolis, the literal gateway to the west (esp if I push the DZ year to 1874 to make St. Louis the only endpoint to the only cross country railroad) and a major center of thaumaturgical study. Still thinking about it. [/QUOTE]
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