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<blockquote data-quote="gabrion" data-source="post: 2405251" data-attributes="member: 30779">In a RL (real life, not ravenloft) campaign I'm running, I ran into an interesting question from one of my players.&nbsp; For a bit of background info, the players are all evil and the plot revolves around them doing the bidding of various demons.&nbsp; Last session one of the characters was reading through the monster's manual and came across the shadow.&nbsp; He was intrigued by the Shadow's create spawn ability and cooked up a plan.He wants to purchase a scroll or two of shapechange and turn into a shadow, gaining the create spawn ability.&nbsp; Before shapechanging he plans to sneak into a house in a small village and use a sap to disable the members of the household.&nbsp; When they are unconscious he will turn into a shadow and do enough STR damage to each of them to turn them into shadows, under his control.&nbsp; After accumulating several of these followers, they will go through the village and simultaneously attack more sleeping individuals, create even more spawn.&nbsp; The end result...an army of undead shadows.My question is obviously whether or not this is legal, and if not what are the sticking points.&nbsp; From a DM perspective I already have ways of dealing with it should he carry through with the plan (he wont be able to escape notice if he does somethig like this and various people will hunt for the culprit), but it seems like the tactic should have a hole in it somewhere.&nbsp; I'm just wondering if anyone sees something I'm missing that prevents this tactic from working.BTW-It will be pretty tough for the character to make the UMD check for the scroll in the first place, but I'm not really concerned with that.&nbsp; For the purpose of this discussion please assume the check is made.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gabrion, post: 2405251, member: 30779"] In a RL (real life, not ravenloft) campaign I'm running, I ran into an interesting question from one of my players. For a bit of background info, the players are all evil and the plot revolves around them doing the bidding of various demons. Last session one of the characters was reading through the monster's manual and came across the shadow. He was intrigued by the Shadow's create spawn ability and cooked up a plan. He wants to purchase a scroll or two of shapechange and turn into a shadow, gaining the create spawn ability. Before shapechanging he plans to sneak into a house in a small village and use a sap to disable the members of the household. When they are unconscious he will turn into a shadow and do enough STR damage to each of them to turn them into shadows, under his control. After accumulating several of these followers, they will go through the village and simultaneously attack more sleeping individuals, create even more spawn. The end result...an army of undead shadows. My question is obviously whether or not this is legal, and if not what are the sticking points. From a DM perspective I already have ways of dealing with it should he carry through with the plan (he wont be able to escape notice if he does somethig like this and various people will hunt for the culprit), but it seems like the tactic should have a hole in it somewhere. I'm just wondering if anyone sees something I'm missing that prevents this tactic from working. BTW-It will be pretty tough for the character to make the UMD check for the scroll in the first place, but I'm not really concerned with that. For the purpose of this discussion please assume the check is made. [/QUOTE]

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