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<blockquote data-quote="gabrion" data-source="post: 2409015" data-attributes="member: 30779">A few things...1) I couldn't figure out why people kept talking about domain lords and stuff until someone asked what RL stood for a little while ago.&nbsp; Sorry for the confusion, but I use RL to mean real life on these boards.2) Rule Zero stuff-Yes DMs still have control over the game, but the emphasis is now on making sure that everyone (even the DM) is working with the same set of rules.&nbsp; Maybe the PCs don't have knowledge of all those rules (and maybe they don't have access to all parts of the game, such as PrC), but the example of which we speak doesn't fit that mold.&nbsp; The Shapechange spell implies that the character, if they are familiar enough with the creature to shapechange into it in the first place, know what they are getting into. 3) Patryn seems to have the right of things on how the ability works.&nbsp; The shadow doesn't have a seperate ability called &quot;control spawn,&quot; they just have one called &quot;create spawn.&quot;&nbsp; Once shapechanged out of shadow form the character no longer has the ability to create spawn, but the effects of doing so while in that form are still present.&nbsp; If this is not accepted then all effects derived from supernatural abilities during shapechange would have to end when the spell expires.&nbsp; Patryn has given some examples that illustrate this quite well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gabrion, post: 2409015, member: 30779"] [b]A few things...[/b] 1) I couldn't figure out why people kept talking about domain lords and stuff until someone asked what RL stood for a little while ago. Sorry for the confusion, but I use RL to mean real life on these boards. 2) Rule Zero stuff-Yes DMs still have control over the game, but the emphasis is now on making sure that everyone (even the DM) is working with the same set of rules. Maybe the PCs don't have knowledge of all those rules (and maybe they don't have access to all parts of the game, such as PrC), but the example of which we speak doesn't fit that mold. The Shapechange spell implies that the character, if they are familiar enough with the creature to shapechange into it in the first place, know what they are getting into. 3) Patryn seems to have the right of things on how the ability works. The shadow doesn't have a seperate ability called "control spawn," they just have one called "create spawn." Once shapechanged out of shadow form the character no longer has the ability to create spawn, but the effects of doing so while in that form are still present. If this is not accepted then all effects derived from supernatural abilities during shapechange would have to end when the spell expires. Patryn has given some examples that illustrate this quite well. [/QUOTE]

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