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<blockquote data-quote="IcyCool" data-source="post: 2415063" data-attributes="member: 20308">Your action comes before the shadows?&nbsp; Then you are Dead on your initiative count in round 11.&nbsp; When it rolls around to the Shadow's initiative count on Round 11, you are now a Shadow.Right, as per the spell descriptions.&nbsp; Which is why, you'll note, that I said that a 3 or 4 was rolled on the 1d4 in my first scenario.That depends, is the Strength damage done by a Shadow considered a magical disease or a curse?&nbsp; Nope.&nbsp; So the spell will work just fine.&nbsp; (Note, if somehow you manage to prove that the Strength damage done by a Shadow is considered one of those two things, then you are correct.&nbsp; The spell would autofail because it would bring you back to life, and the &quot;Shadow Disease&quot; would kill you again.&nbsp; I'm fairly certain that you are in no danger of proving this though. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> )Unless the ability states that he becomes undead right away (and I somehow missed it), where are you getting that?I'm betting you won't find one for #1.&nbsp; And as for #2, those spells don't prevent it.&nbsp; Nothing about the Create Spawn ability for the shadow states that the victim must remain at 0 Strength.&nbsp; Therefore, as wonky as it sounds, you can have shadow A kill Bob (and roll a 4 on its 1d4), Sam Raise Dead (from a scroll) Bob, and Bob become a shadow on shadow A's initiative count in the 4th round.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="IcyCool, post: 2415063, member: 20308"] Your action comes before the shadows? Then you are Dead on your initiative count in round 11. When it rolls around to the Shadow's initiative count on Round 11, you are now a Shadow. Right, as per the spell descriptions. Which is why, you'll note, that I said that a 3 or 4 was rolled on the 1d4 in my first scenario. That depends, is the Strength damage done by a Shadow considered a [b]magical disease[/b] or a [b]curse[/b]? Nope. So the spell will work just fine. (Note, if somehow you manage to prove that the Strength damage done by a Shadow is considered one of those two things, then you are correct. The spell would autofail because it would bring you back to life, and the "Shadow Disease" would kill you again. I'm fairly certain that you are in no danger of proving this though. ;) ) Unless the ability states that he becomes undead right away (and I somehow missed it), where are you getting that? I'm betting you won't find one for #1. And as for #2, those spells don't prevent it. [b]Nothing about the Create Spawn ability for the shadow states that the victim must remain at 0 Strength.[/b] Therefore, as wonky as it sounds, you can have shadow A kill Bob (and roll a 4 on its 1d4), Sam Raise Dead (from a scroll) Bob, and Bob become a shadow on shadow A's initiative count in the 4th round. [/QUOTE]

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