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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 1376479" data-attributes="member: 114"><p>Using PHB 3.0 rules</p><p></p><p><em>The new form can range in size from Diminutive to one size larger than the subject's normal form. </em> </p><p></p><p>So the biggest he can become is a Juvenile (Large) dragon, with a Str of 29 and AC 25.</p><p></p><p><em>The new form can be disorienting. Any time the polymorphed creature is in a stressful or demanding situation (such as combat), the creature must succeed at a Will save (DC 19) or suffer a -2 penalty on all attack rolls, saves, skill checks, and ability checks until the situation passes. </em> </p><p></p><p>The first level volunteer will have a BAB of +1, with a potential of +9 from Str, but most likely suffering -2 on attacks, saves etc due to disorientation. A bite at +8 for 2d6+9 is considerably less fearsome than a bite at +25 for 2d6+9 (which you'd expect from a standard Juvenile Gold Dragon)</p><p></p><p><em>The subject retains its Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores, level and class, hit points (despite any change in its Constitution score), alignment, base attack bonus, and base saves.</em></p><p></p><p>This is the real killer. The 1st level volunteer will have, say, 10hps (assuming a fighter). Talk about a glass jaw!</p><p></p><p></p><p>You don't say what level the party is and what age the red dragon is. You also don't say whether the party have actually met a gold dragon to know what one is like for the purposes of changing into it! But with the above (3.0) limitations I don't think you'd have anything to worry about. The biggest effect is that the polymorphed person draws initial attacks from the red dragon and its first hit is likely to kill the volunteer anyway!</p><p></p><p>Cheers</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 1376479, member: 114"] Using PHB 3.0 rules [I]The new form can range in size from Diminutive to one size larger than the subject's normal form. [/I] So the biggest he can become is a Juvenile (Large) dragon, with a Str of 29 and AC 25. [I]The new form can be disorienting. Any time the polymorphed creature is in a stressful or demanding situation (such as combat), the creature must succeed at a Will save (DC 19) or suffer a -2 penalty on all attack rolls, saves, skill checks, and ability checks until the situation passes. [/I] The first level volunteer will have a BAB of +1, with a potential of +9 from Str, but most likely suffering -2 on attacks, saves etc due to disorientation. A bite at +8 for 2d6+9 is considerably less fearsome than a bite at +25 for 2d6+9 (which you'd expect from a standard Juvenile Gold Dragon) [I]The subject retains its Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores, level and class, hit points (despite any change in its Constitution score), alignment, base attack bonus, and base saves.[/I] This is the real killer. The 1st level volunteer will have, say, 10hps (assuming a fighter). Talk about a glass jaw! You don't say what level the party is and what age the red dragon is. You also don't say whether the party have actually met a gold dragon to know what one is like for the purposes of changing into it! But with the above (3.0) limitations I don't think you'd have anything to worry about. The biggest effect is that the polymorphed person draws initial attacks from the red dragon and its first hit is likely to kill the volunteer anyway! Cheers [/QUOTE]
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