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<blockquote data-quote="Gothmog" data-source="post: 1441526" data-attributes="member: 317"><p>Well, one of the most obvious problems for an all cleric party is the headaches it would cause between the clerics of different faiths. Say you've got a situation where a LG lord is being duped into cracking down on a peaceful organization of CN druids because they seem to be involved with "demonic forces". In fact, the CN druids are a thorn in the side of some CE demon worshippers, who want the holy site the CN druids use for their rituals. The demon worshippers stage demonic attacks against the lord that make it look like the druids are behind them, and maybe make raids on the druids dressed like the lord's men. </p><p></p><p>Now, you've got a party with the following clerics:</p><p></p><p>LG smite the evil type- likely wants to go in to the CN druid site and bust some heads based on their supposed demonic involvement</p><p>CG help the underdog healing god type- sees the lord's persecution of the druids as unfair, and sides with the druids to "fight the power"</p><p>NG diplomatic type- wants to hear both sides of the story and reach an amenable agreement between both sides where neither is hurt and the most innocents benefit</p><p>LN maintain order type- support the lord against the insurgent druids and their corrupting influence on the local populace</p><p>CN wild hair cleric- picks his nose, drinks too much at the inn, then decides to help the CN druids because it would piss off the lord</p><p>Neutral balance is all type- this guy wants to make sure the cosmic balance isn't usurped by one faction becoming too strong, so he investigates, finds out there is a 3rd party making the destabilizing influence, and eliminates them </p><p></p><p>As you can see, there is plenty of conflict between the party members if they are roleplaying their characters at all. Yeah, all cleric parties can be powerful, but the RPing considerations preclude having too many people of different faiths trying to work together (just imagine a Catholic, Mormon, Methodist, Suni Islam, Shivan, and Wiccan trying to work together and agree on ideology and what "should" be done). If you've got munchkin/rules-lawyer players, make them do the one thing that will make them wither up and whimper- ROLEPLAY their characters in a believable fashion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gothmog, post: 1441526, member: 317"] Well, one of the most obvious problems for an all cleric party is the headaches it would cause between the clerics of different faiths. Say you've got a situation where a LG lord is being duped into cracking down on a peaceful organization of CN druids because they seem to be involved with "demonic forces". In fact, the CN druids are a thorn in the side of some CE demon worshippers, who want the holy site the CN druids use for their rituals. The demon worshippers stage demonic attacks against the lord that make it look like the druids are behind them, and maybe make raids on the druids dressed like the lord's men. Now, you've got a party with the following clerics: LG smite the evil type- likely wants to go in to the CN druid site and bust some heads based on their supposed demonic involvement CG help the underdog healing god type- sees the lord's persecution of the druids as unfair, and sides with the druids to "fight the power" NG diplomatic type- wants to hear both sides of the story and reach an amenable agreement between both sides where neither is hurt and the most innocents benefit LN maintain order type- support the lord against the insurgent druids and their corrupting influence on the local populace CN wild hair cleric- picks his nose, drinks too much at the inn, then decides to help the CN druids because it would piss off the lord Neutral balance is all type- this guy wants to make sure the cosmic balance isn't usurped by one faction becoming too strong, so he investigates, finds out there is a 3rd party making the destabilizing influence, and eliminates them As you can see, there is plenty of conflict between the party members if they are roleplaying their characters at all. Yeah, all cleric parties can be powerful, but the RPing considerations preclude having too many people of different faiths trying to work together (just imagine a Catholic, Mormon, Methodist, Suni Islam, Shivan, and Wiccan trying to work together and agree on ideology and what "should" be done). If you've got munchkin/rules-lawyer players, make them do the one thing that will make them wither up and whimper- ROLEPLAY their characters in a believable fashion. [/QUOTE]
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