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<blockquote data-quote="Westwind" data-source="post: 1573730" data-attributes="member: 3241">In 3.5 the d8 HD for the Ranger (and the aforementioned tweaks to dual-wielding) really downgrades the dual-wielding style option.&nbsp; Consider the archery path and have decent melee backup.&nbsp; With stats like that you can end up with a decent Con.&nbsp; If you picked Wild Elf, maybe something like:Str: 16+2=18Int: 15-2=13Wis:16Dex: 16+2= 18Con: 18-2=16Cha: 13-2=11Putting the 18 in Con will mean more than the loss of the 20 Dex if this character is going to be melee.&nbsp; If they go with ranges, switch them.I might switch Int for Cha since I'd rather play dumb than mean, but that's up to the player.&nbsp; With this build I'd either go longspear (Combat Reflexes) or sword and buckler (Forester is my new favorite feat, but even a basic Improved Initiative would work).&nbsp; Your hps are okay, but still not great so you need to get your AC high and/or keep your opponents out of reach.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Westwind, post: 1573730, member: 3241"] In 3.5 the d8 HD for the Ranger (and the aforementioned tweaks to dual-wielding) really downgrades the dual-wielding style option. Consider the archery path and have decent melee backup. With stats like that you can end up with a decent Con. If you picked Wild Elf, maybe something like: Str: 16+2=18 Int: 15-2=13 Wis:16 Dex: 16+2= 18 Con: 18-2=16 Cha: 13-2=11 Putting the 18 in Con will mean more than the loss of the 20 Dex if this character is going to be melee. If they go with ranges, switch them. I might switch Int for Cha since I'd rather play dumb than mean, but that's up to the player. With this build I'd either go longspear (Combat Reflexes) or sword and buckler (Forester is my new favorite feat, but even a basic Improved Initiative would work). Your hps are okay, but still not great so you need to get your AC high and/or keep your opponents out of reach. [/QUOTE]

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